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The_Dunedan · 06-01-2010, 01:01 PM

I also find it interesting that so many people seem so willing to just take Israel's word on this.

I find this odd because the United States has, itself, been a victim of Israeli Piracy (as distinct from Privateering or Acts Of War) in the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. While this action did not involve boarding of the targeted ship (USS Liberty) it was conducted in international waters, outside the scope of the declared conflict, against a non-combatant vessel and for concrete gain. As a result, I classify it as Piracy; YMMV.

The reason I find this odd is that the same people (right-Statist "conservatives") who insist that we take Israel's word on this current (and that previous) act of Piracy are also the same people who usually demand "blood for blood, and by the gallons!" when US assets, ships, personell or facilities are attacked.

Attacking American warships in international waters is bad, and the attackers must be vigorously punished....unless the attackers are Israeli.

Boarding foreign-flagged vessels in international waters by force of arms is Piracy, and Pirates must be punished....unless the Pirates are Israeli.

I'm personally in favour of issuing Letters Of Marque And Reprisal against Pirates and hunting them down to the last man (if possible.) I'm also in favour of any crew which finds itself being boarded by Pirates mowing those Pirates down with belt-fed machinegun and shotgun fire if possible, and simply throwing them overboard to feed the sharks if not. I can't see anything in this incidence which would cause me to modify my position on this.

06-01-2010, 01:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
The_Dunedan Junkie	I also find it interesting that so many people seem so willing to just take Israel's word on this. I find this odd because the United States has, itself, been a victim of Israeli Piracy (as distinct from Privateering or Acts Of War) in the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. While this action did not involve boarding of the targeted ship (USS Liberty) it was conducted in international waters, outside the scope of the declared conflict, against a non-combatant vessel and for concrete gain. As a result, I classify it as Piracy; YMMV. The reason I find this odd is that the same people (right-Statist "conservatives") who insist that we take Israel's word on this current (and that previous) act of Piracy are also the same people who usually demand "blood for blood, and by the gallons!" when US assets, ships, personell or facilities are attacked. Attacking American warships in international waters is bad, and the attackers must be vigorously punished....unless the attackers are Israeli. Boarding foreign-flagged vessels in international waters by force of arms is Piracy, and Pirates must be punished....unless the Pirates are Israeli. I'm personally in favour of issuing Letters Of Marque And Reprisal against Pirates and hunting them down to the last man (if possible.) I'm also in favour of any crew which finds itself being boarded by Pirates mowing those Pirates down with belt-fed machinegun and shotgun fire if possible, and simply throwing them overboard to feed the sharks if not. I can't see anything in this incidence which would cause me to modify my position on this. Last edited by The_Dunedan; 06-01-2010 at 01:04 PM..