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Originally Posted by roachboy
ok so you want to know why i made the pol pot allusion? it was a response to this lovely quip from your boy ace, idyllic:
and follows because the khmyer rouge had a very similar problem with "intellectuals" who lived in cities in particular but they couldn't really tell who they were so decided that the way to get rid of these "intellectuals" was to track down everyone who lived in a city and wore glasses. which they did. and they sent these people to lovely re-education camps where they learned about how bad it was to be a parasite relative to righteous working people as they were being worked to death. thousands and thousands of nasty people wearing glasses died because of this.
it's churlish to mention this ugly story.
but the above, like much of what's in this thread, is not a conservative argument.
there are many reasonable conservatives who make intelligent thoughtful arguments that one might disagree with but which are worth thinking about. i actually enjoy talking to these folk and even learn things from them.
but those arguments are quite different from the above.
and the situation that this post is about is all the more stupid because it's clear that none of the conservative folk who are all bent about being compared with pol pot know enough about the khmyer rouge to know what the comparison is about.
so perhaps what's happening here is a defense of ignorance.
but that's not conservatism.
that's just fucking ignorance.
if you want to defend being ignorant why not man up and defend that?
dispense with this nonsense about poor me poor conservative me and just say it: i don't know shit about the world i dont know shit about the past i dont know shit about the present and that's ok because it is my particular form of not knowing shit that's at stake here and i own it.
own your ignorance.
go ahead.
it's important.
just don't confuse it with being conservative or being anything at all other that what it is.
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rb, I read the thread, I know what ace said, still did not warrant that form of comparison, his opinion of “intellectuals” wasn’t meant for true people of intelligent value, it was a scenario where in he was attempting to expose unfair taxation, in his opinion, not the destruction of all intelligent people but that he did not want to pay taxes for a school that teaches it’s student to look down on the working man, you did not approach his scenario with logic or intelligence, you attacked him and his viewpoint and called him a bigot and a racist for his views and then proceeded to garner support from many others in a thread that was already based in political rhetoric and bashing conservatives, albeit wacko conservatives, but conserves none the less.
I am not the only person who has stated, in this thread, the apparent bullying he received here. I understand he may have some form of history, though if this is the just of it, I am more inclined to believe the history is not all his own in producing those who instead of debating prefer a form of silencing by attack, shame, and then complain when a member just doesn’t quietly withdrawal from the thread as he has been brow beaten to do….. You are pretty comfortable jumping from an opinion to labeling the person, as above, I am now defending ignorance, so my statement goes from something akin to my opinions of the incidents within this thread to I am simply defending ignorance because, yes here it is, I am ignorant to….. or maybe I should say:
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i don't know shit about the world i dont know shit about the past i dont know shit about the present and that's ok because it is my particular form of not knowing shit that's at stake here and i own it.
own your ignorance.
go ahead.
it's important.
just don't confuse it with being conservative or being anything at all other that what it is.
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lower my head and quietly go away because the grand rb says I don’t know what he does, whatever, you appear to be no theologian, rb, and a lot of the time you don’t come across as nice at all. You have no right to insult others to the degree of comparing them to mass murderers and then just expect it to all go away because you say so.
You attack like a Tasmanian devil, screaming and hurling insults with teeth exposed and then justify it as, well, they deserved it and if your don’t see that, then you are just as ignorant as they are. I really think this exposes more of your character than you should divulge on a forum of this magnitude where general debate follows on the words of logic and not simply animal attacks when you need to defend your own pov. Not to mention how this looks to lurkers who are reading and finding that a moderator is o.k. with hurling insults of this magnitude and then attempt to support it by calling me stupid for not understanding why you compared another member to a sadistic, genocidic mass murderer.
Look rb, you can type all day long as to what you think your justification was for making the remarks you made, but in the end, that is all they are, your own justification, your own excuses to make you look less like an angry kid.
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it's churlish to mention this ugly story.
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Then why do it, sensationalism, effect, it wasn’t effective, though to some, maybe it would have scared them away, you are good at that, at those grandiose statements with all their shock and awe affect, but ace is not threatened by you, not scared away by you, neither am I. However, that super moderator below your avatar garners support, lots of support from newbies, who jump on your band wagon and come to your call of degrading and just join right in (this is why I speak of lib and conserve. the thread dictated it and that was the support you garnered).
I would expect kinder inferences from someone of your intellectual caliber, unless you view yourself as one of these “intellectuals” who teach their students to look down upon the blue collars, maybe you were insulted by ace, somehow I just don’t think so, either way, you took this thread exactly where it is, you put ace exactly where he is and then you complain about it and call him a whiner and just continue to debase the whole issue to justify your own comments, and your friends rallied to your support of your “unwarranted injustices” poor YOU had to deal with from that complainer ace, what a joke, what a fucking joke, and still you defend yourself and try to explain why ace deserved to be compared to pol pot, just bullshit rb, and further your insults by calling me ignorant for defending him, simply, rude, self indulgent bull shit.