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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
ace, start another thread already. What does any of that have to do with Rand, Barack, and our friends at BP?
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Who is Rand Paul?
Why did he win the primary?
Who supports him?
Why do the people who support Rand Paul, dislike Obama?
Why do people who support Rand Paul believe he more closely reflects American values and Barack Obama does not?
What statements does Barack Obama make that puts him at odds with those who support people like Rand Paual and those in the Tea Party?
I have given thought to those questions and I think the answers are very relevant to the topic.
It seems to me that when someone has a question that may shift the discussion, perhaps the questioner should ask that question in a new thread. And as usual, everyone has the ability to ignore a post, and the moderators can step in anytime they feel things are getting too far afield.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
Well, if I were to try, it wouldn't be something you could sum up with facile folksy parables about the noble blue collar worker's suffering at the hands of the college educated.
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Why not answer the question? Don't you think your response supports my point? Some have the courage (agree or not) to state what they stand for, like Rand Paul.
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Because Obama is a politician, and politicians are typically more concerned with maintaining and consolidating their own power than being honest.
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I don't support politicians that I don't think are honest, do you?
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I think it's awesome that you dismiss those "latte drinking, highly educated, liberals" for stereotyping long haul truck drivers in a paragraph where you very extensively stereotype long haul truck drivers. While you're entitled to your opinion here, I don't think it fits in a serious discussion- it's pointless to argue with you about things that only exist in your head.
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I have a bias against people who subtly or not so subtly say that I don't have a clue. I also find it interesting how some of those people have an attitude that they deserv to be thanked for telling me I don't have a clue and gracing me with their condensation all while not being able or willing to address simple and direct questions.
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Here's a little secret for you: conservatives go to college and drink lattes too. They also are frequently intellectual. Sometimes (read a lot of the time) they even create self serving narratives about people to bolster their own opinions (see: aceventura).
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The issue is not intellect, the issue is condescension. There have been many instances that clearly define what I describe available for everyone to see who reads this forum regularly. It is in the media. It is in Washington. And, it comes direct from the President - exemplified by his bitter people who cling to their guns and religion remark. And some wonder why there is a Tea Party movement or a Rand Paul.
Oh, and what is the difference between a latte and a cup of coffee?