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Originally Posted by Slims
....If a cop has a 'reasonable suspicion' a child is too young to be driving he can pull him over and ask for his drivers license.
Likewise if a police officer has a 'reasonable suspicion' that I am a burgler rather than the owner of a house he can legally check to find out.
How is this any different from any other crime?
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Too young to drive:
Burglar:
Now post an image of someone that demonstrates they're an illegal immigrant that doesn't include them crossing the border.
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
Wait, saying they will enforce federal law is racist AND unconstitutional?
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I'm saying in the real world it's impossible to tell if someone is an illegal immigrant just by looking at them. The idea that someone looks or acts in a way (other than actually crossing the border) that somehow leads a police officer to have a lawful, reasonable suspicion that they're illegal is outside reality. All the conservative and/or racist apologists in the world can't hide the reality of this situation.
The law is actually quite simple: it gives local police the power to act as federal immigration officers. It makes not having your papers on you a
misdemeanor. Finally, and most importantly, the law gives Arizona police the power to detain anyone they consider to have a "reasonable suspicion" of being an illegal immigrant.
"But Will, that's not racist!! 404, racism not found LOL!!!"
Only if you have your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears. Unfortunately, Arizonans can't choose to live in a perfect little bubble of Disney-esque innocence. Let's say you're a police officer in Arizona. Just recently, a law passed that said if you didn't enforce the new law, you would be sued. The law requires you to demand proof of legal residence on THE SUSPICION of not having papers. So, as you're walking down the street looking at people, you think to yourself 'who doesn't have papers?'
"Hmmm... there's a white family—ma, pa and two kids—coming out of a pizza parlor. I'd better check them... but that'd never hold up. Arizona doesn't have an Anglo-Saxon illegal immigration problem. We don't have Germans crossing the border so they can send money back to their impoverished country to put food on their family's table.
"Maybe it's the black man walking out of the grocery store? He's certainly not of European descent. Then again, it's more likely his ancestors were kidnapped and brought here to perform slave labor (or "fun happy times cooperation work", as the Texas Board of Education calls it). And, again, it's not like we share a border with Liberia or Chad. Hm....
"Hey, it's a Mexican woman! She's wearing cheap clothing, worn out shoes and... yes... she has an early 90s Ford Escort that probably hasn't been washed in months! Shoot, looks like the registration is paid. Still, we share a border with Mexico, and most of the illegal immigrants in Arizona are from Mexico."
I'll tell you what, give me a situation in which, aside from crossing the border, an Arizona police officer would have the suspicion that someone is undocumented. Go ahead, I'm waiting.