SF,
I am 99% sure you are trolling, but I will play along.
Until fairly recently, I made my living as an Army working dog handler. I have trained dogs to bite, released them on people and have been bitten myself. I don't like it when people play the "credentials" game, though I feel that sharing mine would help to validate what most everyone else has said.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
If the dog was shot in the heart or throat it would certainly die instantly...
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The only guaranteed instant kill shots require a direct hit to the CNS. Good luck with that.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
If the dog came at me most likely in a fight it would bite my forearm.
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The dog will most likely bite whatever is closest and most readily available to get its prey immobilized or at least knocked to the ground. They then usually release the bite and go for the face/neck. It's a hunting tactic that has worked for them in the wild since the Pleistocene.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Certainly it would be able to make my arm bleed and it would hurt - but its not like it has the strength to actually bite my arm of.
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You are correct that a dog could not bite your arm off in a single go, though it is more than capable of tearing tendons, ripping flesh from bone, breaking your arm and dislocating your shoulder. I know its anecdotal, but I have personally witnessed all of these things happen from dog bites.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
While I forced it down with MY 300 lbs of weight against its 120 lbs, I would have a free hand to strike it in the eye or throat or ribs, to choke it, to hoist it up and drive it repeatedly into the floor or a wall, etc etc...unless it can get at my throat or face, or I just lie there and let it eat me... it is not going to be able to strike a killing blow.
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Good luck with that. Watch a dog bite and you will see it lower its ass (center of gravity) and pull with its legs, pop its hips and make violent twisting motions with its neck to both cause immense physical damage and pull you off balance. If you are still standing after the initial hit, you won't be for long.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
but I have the human intelligence to strike right into the throat, or throttle it, or gouge his eyes, or drive his face into the floor and break his teeth, or whatever else - which is another difference between a dog and a man.
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You may have the "intelligence" to go for the throat (just like a dog) but you have to remember that dogs are a product of millions of years of combat. Their necks are the strongest muscles on their body so a short punch or kick wont do shit. Their bones are both flexible and strong so you will not be able to twist it (even if they held still long enough for you to try). Going for the eyes is largely ineffective. They are small, moving targets. On the off chance that you manage to poke one, or even gouge one out, the dog will continue to fight. They do not feel pain like you and I do; they will keep fighting @ 100% until they are physically broken or dead.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Dogs dont have the courage to attack adult humans unless it is a cowardly bite in the arse or back, or they are wild and desperate. They dont have the strength to kill adults in any normal circumstances
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[citation needed]
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Originally Posted by inBOIL
So how does the dog's jaw (which is made of bone) withstand those hundreds of pounds of pressure it's exerting? How do the dog's teeth withstand over two orders of magnitude more pressure than bone? Not that I agree with SF's assessment, but I think your numbers are a bit exaggerated.
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Dunedan may have exaggerated a little bit, though a dog bite is no joke. Dogs can exert tremendous levels of pressure (several hundred pounds) b/c their bones and teeth are exceptionally dense due to millions of years of evolution...not unlike a shark is able to exert thousands of pounds of force with cartilage and teeth.
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Below is a good representation of the ways different dogs attack. Feel free to point out exactly when/where the decoy (the guy in the bite suit) has the opportunity to grab and split the dogs hind legs.