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to clarify my position, we are going to run into a hell of a problem, regardless of what the US does or how many people cry over the amount of grain that the cows that we eat with such gusto consume- And that is in fact not a good thing, but it is a necessary thing if we are going to develop anything like a solution to our resource and consumption problems- these are HUGE problems, so large that most of the world simply ignores them or is too busy trying to simply survive... so like every other problem that has ever smacked us in the head, this one is going to, and it will at the least change lifestyles across the globe, even if it does not result in wars and some general chaos... So I see most of the green movement as a futile gesture, more like slapping a bandaid on an arterial wound and telling the patient that he will be fine, than doing ANYTHING that will have a real effect..... But I believe that we are smart and adaptable as a species, if forced to be, and that the coming shortage of resources due to the near inevitable development of a gigantic middle class in both india and china (and a lot of other countries as well) Should force us to adapt and change..... Out of the inevitable bad, I see the potential for good, but only with a lot of bad first...... Oh- as to your idea that we spend a bit more on food, I would rather see that money spent on developing more sustainable crops and more healthy, yet still cheap foods.... hell, most of us Americans are fat due to two things- 1- we are reared in such a low impact environment that we have little or no exercise to begin with, and get less as we age- 2 we eat cheap food that is horrible for us- would it be impossible to develop cheap food that is not so horrible???? really, it seems that with our ridiculous amounts of available funding, we should work toward that, for self preservation if nothing else.....

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