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Old 05-18-2010, 09:45 AM   #35 (permalink)
Strange Famous
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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan View Post
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A dog can run at 40+ miles per hour. Can you? Can you even do 10mph? Bear in mind that Usain Bolt made it to what, 15-17mph in the Olympics?
A dog can bite at 400-1,000lbs/inch. Can you even -lift- 400lbs?
A dog can turn inside his own body length and lick his own asshole. Can you?
1 - I cant run at 40 MPH. Thats fine for me. I dont think I can outrun a dog, and if he runs off I wont chase him, It doesnt matter if he survives as long as he leaves me alone - Ive no desire to "finish him"

2 - Lifting at bite pressure are rather different things. I have no idea if I can lift 400 lbs, but I probably could with my whole body I guess. But a dog weighs 120 lbs, and I am pretty sure I can lift 120 lbs. I weigh 300 lbs, I am pretty sure a dog cant lift me. So in fact while I am strong enough to man handle a dog, to shove it about, to pick it up over my head and throw it into a wall,etc The dog can bite me and thats the only offensive weapon he has.

3 - No, I cant lick my own arse. Nor do I have any wish to. If the essence of the dogs tactical strength is some genetic memory of hunting a big breed of cow thats been extinct 4000 years, and the ability to lick its own arse - compare that the human beings capacity for violence and destruction.

Mankind who can make guns, missiles, tanks, etc vs a dog who is by nature subserviant, who's only "fighting intelligence" is based on rudimentary training to bite people, or a genetic memory of pack hunting.

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The stuff about bite pressure is also misleading, The dog wouldnt be biting me on a 1 square inch point. He would be biting on my entire arm - which would likely be being rammed into his throat at the time. Yes he could break my skin, bruise me - but I think it is very unlikely he has the strength to bite through my arm or break a bone. It would take him 3 hours to chew one of the bones in my arm in half

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I really dont get how any can argue that if two creatures fight - it is likely that the smaller, weaker, less intelligent, less aggressive creature will win. A pack of dogs might take down a man if they are desperate and starving. A single dog has very little chance.

And on top of everything else, consider my ability to use weapons which the dog does not have.

Whether its the car keys jammed into the eyeball, a club, a knife, a belt made into a makeshift noose, a sharp stone - there are 1000's of potential weapons I could make use of in a real environment.

In fact - I would say that my superiority (and I am an average man, heavier than most, but not especially strong or skilled in combat) that it is unlikely that I would even need to kill the dog. I would probably only need to administer a sound thrashing and the dog would retreat.

In the scenario someone mentioned of two pitbulls attacking it might be more dangerous, and it probably would be necessary to kill at least one dog - because if you allowed them to gang up on you would would be at risk.
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