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Originally Posted by snowy
... you don't read these things anyway (or read our responses correctly, it seems, since you said that I said animals are gay, which if you look at my quotes, I never said any such thing)
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Ok. I did make a mistake here. It was actually the name of the article which was wrong, "can animals be gay" ... but it wasn't your fault.
It's like asking "can birds be married"? And then go on to talk about heterosexual pairings in birds. If they're are a pair, it does'nt mean they're married. Just like if they're having sex between two males, they're not 'gay' as in 'being gay'.
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Originally Posted by Amaras
Having quickly scrolled through the last couple of pages, I must say I'm surprised. I
thought telling males that they must be a certain way in tantamount to telling them
what they cannot be.
I'm all for bisexuality. Hell, I've been with both genders. I just don't take myself as
seriously as you do.
Let each stumble upon their own sexual identity, as it evoles as we do, continually.
That's what I say.
I'm very uncomfortable when someone repeatedly uses the word all to
describe anything, because in my understanding of nature, nothing is ever all.
You sound like George W. Bush in your certainty.
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I'm really surprised, as to what kind of male, would not care about an identity which purports to be a 'sexual identity' but is actually a 'third gender' identity, ... and then blame the other for making a ruckus out of nothing, when there is so much at stake ... you won't even know what is at stake ... men will die for these things, how convenient it is for you guys to close your eyes to everything that is wrong and say, everything is alright.
I can't do that because I work with men, and I've seen how terribly these invisible pressures hurt and harm men and mutilate their souls.
There is certainly a difference between a male who sees and experiences that his sense of gender (manhood) clashes with the 'gay' or 'bisexual' identity imposed by the society and those who don't feel that clash. Could this difference be one's own inner gender -- i.e. masculinity or femininity?
It is certainly something that should have been of interest to the academic and research community. But then men's lives don't mean much, unless they're about having sex with women and reproducing.