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Originally Posted by rahl
If you feel that strongly about it why not do extesive research, write a paper or book, and see how it holds up to biologists, sociologists, phychologists around the world?
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Do you think I haven't spoken before? I've been speaking against what is going on for centuries -- as Walt Whitman, as Alfred Kinsey, as Michel Foucalt, and innuerable number of known and unknown voices who have living persecuted lives under your perverted system of invalid identification and categorization, trying to escape or get around it as ordinary laymen, only to be categorised again by you as as 'pomosexual,' 'bicurious' 'experimenting' or just plain 'closeted.' 'I've written books, I've conducted researches, I've written poems ... But you don't listen to me. You sideline my voice. You want your 'gay' identity' to rule, and you don't care for the rest.
Are you asking me to get my work validated by the same western scientists and biologists and historians, who have worked so hard to destroy the truth in the first place?
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Originally Posted by rahl
If your opinion truely is that ground breaking why not go for it, instead of trying to argue with people on an online setting, where you can't provide any evidence, yet insist everyone else in the entire world has it wrong, but you somehow have got if figured out.
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You're the same culture that has taken away my right to know and communicate with god, telling me to get my interaction with god be validated by the church first, before I can talk about it. Denying it validity. Denying it space. And then persecuting me for it.
There is only one god, you told me. And its the one authorised by the Church. To worship any other god is to do heresy and be damned.
Today, you do the same to knowledge, to truth, to wisdom.
Truth, like god, does not need validation by organised human bodies. That is something you westerners really, really need to understand.
Truth is there for everyone to see and experience. Knowledge should not be made hostage to a few powerful authorities, who then go on to distort and fit it into their whims and fancies and agendas.
It is my basic human right to experience the truth on my own. And to talk about it without having it to be validated by the powerful.
What I am saying is something that is the basic human truth. Every person should and can experience that truth for himself. All you need to do is open your eyes.
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Originally Posted by Idyllic
Share your experience so as we may understand why you feel the way you do.
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That is what I want to do. I can't even get down to it. Give me some time. It will come up.
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Originally Posted by Idyllic
I will discuss your ideas fairly so long as they do not infringe upon the freedoms of others in a confining or demeaning way.
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The moment you come to me with your judgments, you create a wall. Listen to me unconditionally. Consider my points unconditionally. For all you know, your apprehensions maybe baseless.
I want justice and space for all and sundry. I don't want to leave anyone from the society, and from a dignified life.
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Originally Posted by Idyllic
Talk, NM, I could care less what society thinks about our words, but our actions must be about progression for all humankind, not one particular gender, it is only fair, agreed?
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I can see you hold a lot of strong views about a lot of things. Unless you can listen to me without holding any pre-conditions, like a mother listens to a child in pain, you can't do justice to me.
Also, how can we talk about gender rights if our definitions of gender don't tally with each other. You see gender as equalling 'sex.' and I am used to see gender as constituting both inner and outer sex. So, you're only concerned about progression for each 'sex' when I want progression for each combination of 'sex' and 'gender.' We have a lot of cultural difference between us. The point is, I've already seen your culture and its views. The idea is to make you see mine.