Idyllic

NM, I am a mother of men, I have just as much a right, as a responsibility, to insure my sons have a voice in their world, in that allowing them the opportunity to LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS is not only my maternal job but my pleasure in assuring their place as an integral part of humanity altogether.... if that means accepting their preferences for homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, asexual sex and/or relationships, then so be it.

I will do everything within my power to assist in removing the stigmas of those who would judge them merely because of who or how they love...... and then segregate them simply because they feel it threatens their own perceptions of manhood, or masculinity.

Just as by YOUR account there are two types of men, penetrator and those who are penetrated (except you include those who are penetrated as any male who appears effeminate in any manner, even those masculine men who are physically sexually challenged by nature or injury based on their perceived inability to penetrate or procreate, they also are considered part of the “anti-man” society). I do not divide man, YOUR so called ‘teachings” do.

What do you label woman who do BOTH…… we label them humans.

The base definition for a heterosexual woman is simply a woman who prefers sex with a male, it is you who attempts to pervert words to suit your own misconceptions of human sexuality.

The only time my husband submits to me is when I ask for his wallet, in which case, I help to fill it anyways, so I guess in reality we submit to each other in the equality of life and the kinship of responsibility in the rearing of our children. Submitting to each other is not wrong, nor does it define masculine of feminine genders, it simply exposes the true nature of equal respect in one another’s natural strengths and weakness in any relationship.

What a crock of bullshit, straight men can and do have sexual relationships with other men, orgasm alone dictates that sexual contact feels good. Merely because women were available, does not mean they were interested in the sexual act at all times (we are not merely inanimate object sedentarily awaiting the insemination of men). Sexual exploration is not defined within the confines of gender, sexual curiosity is a natural occurrence, again just because a man has a homosexual experience does NOT define him as a homosexual. Nor is any form of sexual interaction considered naturally repulsive (as opposed to personally) outside of those sexual actions which derive in forced unwanted humiliation of another or tyrannical acts of cruelties that only feeds ones self perceived superiority over another, i.e. rape (not S&M), as rape is merely the use of sex to demoralize another human and feed ones own demented sense of self-superiority.

NM, you truly do not challenge anything except the ability for your pupils to see beyond your own stereotypical ignorance, and I for one would not be so interested in this thread had it not been for the fact that you, of all people, hold sexual “workshops” where you spread this form of bigotry and homophobic hate. I feel the unjust and confining sexual “chains” you place on natural sexual inclinations is anti-humane, and it is perverted and perverting the nature evolutions of your own people, especially the more vulnerable and already confused young men in your culture trying to understand progressions in self awareness and sexual freedoms.

As opposed to the ones who sit idly by and allow you to distort sexual progression so intolerantly that you would cast the entire sexual freedom movement back into the days of persecution of homosexuals and perpetuate effeminate inequalities. Your sources are either; persons who persecute anything that goes against their own perceptions of sexuality, are simply homophobes, or just self indulgent heterosexuals who fear that anything that goes against male superiority is “anti-man”, there are also those who are so afraid of their own homosexual desires, and the fear of perceived negative connotations as applied by men like yourself NM that go so far as to deny their own desires and hate homosexuals for their ability to accept and love themselves.

You do mean the sexually and humanely and socially progressive west, right……it’s coming for you NM, whether you try to alter it our not, the “gay” people of your culture are already having their voices heard and nothing you can do will alter this as human nature dictates nobody like to be segregated for who they love or how they love, this isn’t about the west, this is about the reality of human existence, you just need somebody to blame your fears upon other that exposing your own homophobia.

What you teach does nothing to attempt to expose and remove hypocrisy and permit the acceptance of human differences, it merely perpetuates them.

These aren’t western definitions they are merely ascribing words with inherent meanings that already existed but by which in doing so remove the stigma and simple attempt a cohesive understanding of human sexuality. The word “homosexual” is not a stigma, it is the explanation of “homo” = one human gender be it female or male + “sexual” = sex, put them together and you end up with a sex act between two persons of the same gender, big deal, the word has no negative connotations except those YOU apply to it, and other homophobic persons, like you appear to be.

These definitions began in the east and were adopted in the west, the words themselves actually freed sexual inclinations by allowing humans to understand personal sexual preferences as more that just some form of deviation from human nature and instead a natural part of humans' sexual expressions.

Many on this thread have acknowledged the fact of male relationships being more than just homosexual based, I believe it is you who will not consider any possible truths, outside your own self acknowledged, unsupported as a cohesive idea, proposal on sexual behavior, except to say that anything outside of your teachings’ is a part of the “anti-man” agenda.

Now where on earth could I have come to this conclusion about you NM being anti-woman, let me think:

and this:

Let me know if I need to find you more examples of your "perceived" negative view women.

As I have said, this alone should make you stop and rethink you conclusions, go to school NM, get your PhD in humans sexuality, then you can complain when nobody buys what you are selling. As I said before:

{That’s because no true scientific scholar would dare desecrate the advancements of society as you are attempting to do with your simplistic and immature, homophobic, anti-effeminate, pro-segregation views of reality. If you can’t find a scholar who has come to these same conclusions, as you erroneously have NM, doesn’t that say something, or do you truly believe that YOU are creating some NEW profound perspectives’ on reality…..

Your thinking is nothing new; it’s just another replication of antiquated conceited, male chauvinistic, self indulgences that have proven to do nothing more than hurt any individuals who buy this kind of societal segregating crap.

This is all about you making a name for yourself as some kind of guru of social equality based on your own skewed views of history where you pick apart logic and attempt to destroy the foundations of sexual freedom because it does not support your interests in perpetuating male superiority, and not just any kind of male superiority, YOUR kind, wherein men are free to control all they purvey via sexual actions alone, using sex as an excuse to support your own brand of masculinity and “hazingish” indoctrinations into manhood.}

Apparently it is only really appreciated when it supports your opinions, I simply offered you another perspective on the possible realities of history as my college education has afforded me, considering my fields of studies include, art history with an emphasis on ancient pre-written historical art (cave art, venus figues, burial artifacts, etc…), religion as a tool for early cohesive societies, and philosophy as an attempt to move past the confines of religious doctrine and dogma through the developments and understandings of science and biology. But what do I know, I’m just another whore whose sole earthly responsibility is to give birth, nurse and rear young, right.

You are so full of your own self worth that you will continue to deny anything that would teach outside of what you insist, you are the worse kind of teacher who has clung to his own brand of sexual construction as to deny all others and claim that anyone who sees a different pov is either ignorant or simply attacking you. It is not you we attack it is you antiquated perceptions of human sexuality.

Gay Rape, an Untouched and Harsh Reality | Youth Ki Awaaz: Mouthpiece for the Youth

I fear your culture needs to crack down on adult men who have sex with underage boys as a means of satisfying their sexual needs because it defines theses young men, the moment they are penetrated, for their entire lives they grow believing they are klibas (3rd gender, 3rd nature…etc.) because some pederast needed to get his nut off and didn't want to be seen with an adult 3rd gender, or lessen his “masculine” facade by admitting his proclivities to sex with women. Your brand of teachings will simply continue to promote human sexual intolerances which leads to these forms of aggressive sexual attacks on young men.

Homosexual rape, specifically pederast forms of rape has not been seen as a crime by your culture, only rape that involves females. Until now, it will change with this new law!

New Rape Laws May Help Gay Rights Cause - India Real Time - WSJ

It would appear that some of your adult men create and perpetuate the third gender (receptive males) and then are repulsed by them when they eventually accept the physical position of receptive sex that was originally “forced” upon them. I am NOT implying that all homosexuals are “created” by other men, I am merely making a realization that a lot of boys, if not provoked by “teachers” like NM, would be left to choose for themselves their natural sexual inclinations results (heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual, etc.), and if pederasts did not feel the necessity to seek out innocent, unprotected boys for their own sexual satisfactions without regard to the emotional or sociological impact this imposes on the young in regards to removing their inherent right to choose their own sexual development, not to mention the young men are not typically permitted to even entertain sex with females as normal outside of procreative sex. NM, if I were a man and I was not permitted to have “pleasure” sex with women just for the sake of enjoyment but I was permitted it with men as a penetrator only, of course I would have sex with men, what choice do you offer men…… NONE.

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India decriminalises gay sex - India - The Times of India

So it has been almost a year since “gays” and homosexual activates have had the legal stigma of persecution removed, and now the “gay” societies are allowed to come out without the fear of retribution by the law, it can be scary to acknowledge differences that in a society as yours have been so dramatically ridiculed and altogether denied as anything but anti-man. However, NM, your perceptions and teaching merely continue the ostracizing of humans based simply on YOUR OWN FEAR and IGNORANCE

The west has nothing to do with the easts’ “gay” nation (as it has been their all along) except maybe to expose that segregations and denial in itself of homosexuality is not only unprogressive it is not a necessity in a cohesive society, on the contrary, the “gay” communities are as much a part of humanities inherent makeup as any other, it really does not matter who you fuck, NM nor does who you fuck define you, unless YOU want it to. The west not only acknowledges sexual individuality and the personification of it but also permits freedom for such and even embraces human sexual proclivities and uniqueness as merely part of the human expression of love……

One can only hope that we are Fuglystick, as the thought of this man being a "teacher" and propagating this form of repulsive hate is truly sickening!

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