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Long, long ago, in initial human tribes, they started to have "manhood tests" (what we call initiation rites) to induct the adolescents from the women's spaces into men's spaces. The 'third gender' space was for feminine gendered males and masculine gendered females (irrespective of their sexual preferences, though most transgendered males had sex with females.)
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Third gender males showed symptoms of being so, quite early on in their childhood, and the parents used to bring up such boys as though they were girls, or rather a separate gender altogether.
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Like today, then too, the feminine gendered males had no use for manhood or men's spaces, so they did not have to go through the tests.
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However, unlike today, the feminine gendered male was extremely valued as a category of people who had powers of male body and female soul.
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Somewhere alongside, the ruling forces started forcing men to have compulsory and constant (year after year) -- but by no means, exclusive -- reproductive sex with women
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Once again with the "You only fuck women because society -makes- you fuck women: you REALLY want some hot, sweaty man-love up your ass!" crap. Either source this, support it, or drop it. It's insulting, it's incorrect, and it's bullshit.
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Walt Whitman's case is interesting. He wanted to create a formal space for men (as part of the manhood -- now straight -- space itself) to love men. He actually, wanted to bring out this love, which had always existed secretly within straight male spaces, out into the formal social space, as the west set foot into the modern times and the oppressive Christian times gave way to the 'scientific' era.
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Western third genders jumped up at this space created by Walt Whitman, and started to claim this love as a sign of 'third sex' or 'intermediate sex.' They soon started a movement through this, and one self-defined 'intermediate sex' after another started to join in this movement, later calling themselves 'men who are attracted to men.' They then created a separate category for this, on the pattern of the historical 'third gender' category.
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Sources. Now. You're making what purport to be factual claims about an historical/literary figure from the English-speaking world about whom there exists an enormous body of primary-source information as well as contemporary and current commentary and criticism. Source this ridiculous claim or drop it. Your alleged "reference" by Mr. Norton, far from buttressing your position, denies it. The thrust of the article deals with the various literary means and authors, Whitman among them, by which and through whom various LGBT/Queer folks realized that they were as they were. It furthermore deals with the various terms/descriptors used by society and by LGBT/Queer folk themselves prior to the invention of the
term "homosexual" and the associated social adoption of the understanding of its' meaning. None of this has anything to do with the existence of a "third gender," or some socially-repressed desire on the part of straight men to engage in sexual activities which by definition do not interest them. It does nothing to support any of your alleged points.
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The anti-man forces created by Christianity that ruled the Western society, gave validity and power to the 'third genders' to define themselves as 'men who love men.'
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I don't even know where to begin.