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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan
So wait, wait, wait. You're telling me that (and I'd love to know how you "know" this) that straight men (such as myself), who -by definition- (straight) are not sexually attracted to males (effeminate or otherwise) -actually- want to have sex with the men we aren't attracted to, but aren't "allowed?"
I would laugh if this weren't such a ludicrous proposition as to defy any reaction, laughter included. Straight males (who by definition are sexually attracted to females) actually want to have sex with males? And something (like maybe that straightness thing again) "disallows" it? And -any- (ie all) straight man would want to if some unknown and undefined anti-male force were preventing them?
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I'd definitely respond to your questions, but later. Right now, I'd just say that the definitions your society (or any society) creates are just that, definitions. They often have very little to do with reality.
There are so many baggages, so much politics involved with male gender and sexuality, for such milleniums, that have made sexuality something that is primarily a tool for 'buying' social manhood, rather than something to enjoy that it has been for women and queer males (whether they like men or women or both). There is often little relationship between actual sexual/ romantic desires and sexual behavior/ identity of men.
Ironically, the women and queers think, its the masculine gendered male (that they call straights) that really 'enjoy' sex.
In fact, you talk about the right to enjoy sex, and men will accuse you of 'complaining.'
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Originally Posted by ring
"Let's call a spade a spade and then fight for the dignity of every human trait."
Can you see the problem with this statement?
Some people call a spade, a shovel.
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Sometimes, the society conspires to call 'spade' a shovel. And then confusion starts. The people get used to calling the spade a shovel. And then you have to work hard to make people realise that its actually a spade.