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Old 05-11-2010, 08:42 AM   #83 (permalink)
The_Dunedan
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And, men who are 'men' who don't like women, but like only men, are also part of this community, which is called 'straight' in the west.
Umm...no. "Liking men" is pretty much the defining characteristic of "not straight." It could mean bisexual or homosexual, but a man who likes men is, by definition, -not- straight. I don't have any idea where you're getting this.

For clarification:
Heterosexual/straight man: sexually attracted exclusively to females.
Bisexual man: sexually attracted to both males and females.
Homosexual/gay man: sexually attracted exclusively to males.
Edited to add: Omnisexual/Pansexual: Makes little distinction between males and females except in regards to what goes where. Equally attracted to both sexes without precondition (thank you, Capt. Jack...)

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Liking men should not be make a male liable to be broken from the men's community.
It doesn't. Lots of straight dudes have LGBT friends, and it's not a problem...at least here in the horrible, anti-male west. Maybe it's different where you are...wherever that is.

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The fact is that the 'straight' so called 'gays (as in straight-gays)
No, the "fact" is that you cannot assert a fact buttressed by an oxymoron. There is no such thing as a straight-gay, any more than there is such a thing as a horsecow. Bisexuality is something different.

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AND, the gay community also includes the 'queer' heterosexuals
Queer heterosexuals? -THIS- I've got to hear! ANOTHER oxymoron!

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All I am saying is to acknowledge this fact in the actual definitions of these categories.
Only in your mind. In the rest of the world, we're having a difficult time understanding you because you are so far outside of any normative means of describing your position, in fact you repeatedly define your position based upon contradictions in terms. You also seem to be operating from a unique and entirely separate set of definitions from the entire rest of the English-speaking world.

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Also, I'm not asking for anything new. That's the way its always been.
Where? Even in Sparta, which was the gayest of gay, and Athens, which wasn't much different, even in THEBES for Christ's sake, nothing like what you describe existed. Sparta got closest, but even there you're waaay off base. Like running around in Dacia off-base.

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That's the way it still is in the indigenous societies.
Name one, and cite sources for your assertion. Something published and peer-reviewed would be nice, don't go all Colin Dean on us here.

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