Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community - View Single Post - Sexual Orientation is an oppressive, anti-man Western concept

Natural manhood · 05-11-2010, 08:24 AM

There is NO community of "men who like women" as such.

Liking women sexually has for long been a gender/ sexual role of men who aspired for social manhood (basically masculine gendered male).

There is only a community of men who are men.

And, men who are 'men' who don't like women, but like only men, are also part of this community, which is called 'straight' in the west.

Apart from that there is also a community of men who are not men, or if you please, are men of a different nature (feminine males). These males do not fit into the community of 'men who are men.' And they don't have a stake in social manhood. So, they form a separate community. They just call it wrongly as 'men who like men' since this is a trait, owning to politics against manhood, men can't claim as their own.

What I am saying is that it is wrong for the society to force men who like men from this community of 'men who are men' and merge them with the feminine males, just because the feminine gendered call themselves 'men who like men.'

Liking men should not be make a male liable to be broken from the men's community. It's unjustified. A man who acknowledges his liking for men should have as much right to be in the 'men who are men' category as men who "prove a liking for women,' or a distaste for men.

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Also, I'm not asking for anything new. That's the way its always been. That's the way it still is in the indigenous societies. And that is the way it actually is, even in the West itself. If you look behind the deceptive social facade created by 'sexual orientation.'

The fact is that the 'straight' so called 'gays (as in straight-gays) spend their entire life primary in the 'men who are men' community. For all practical purposes they are part of this community. They are accepted quietly as part of the straight community, unlike the gay 'gay' who stands out and is a misfit.

AND, the gay community also includes the 'queer' heterosexuals and transgendered heterosexuals, and the community is actually known as 'LGBT.'

So, already, the masculine gendered males are in one category, whatever sexual orientation they may attest to, and the feminine gendered males of all sexual orientations are in one category.

All I am saying is to acknowledge this fact in the actual definitions of these categories.

The Western society and especially, the third genders who like men, may want to see the society as ideologically divided between 'males who like women' and 'males who like men,' but this division is far from the biological, social and historical reality of males. So, even if the society forces people to group as 'hetero-homo' people will eventually, actually regroup as 'men' and 'third genders.'

Let's call a spade a spade and then fight for the dignity of every human trait.

05-11-2010, 08:24 AM	#81 (permalink)
Natural manhood Tilted	There is NO community of "men who like women" as such. Liking women sexually has for long been a gender/ sexual role of men who aspired for social manhood (basically masculine gendered male). There is only a community of men who are men. And, men who are 'men' who don't like women, but like only men, are also part of this community, which is called 'straight' in the west. Apart from that there is also a community of men who are not men, or if you please, are men of a different nature (feminine males). These males do not fit into the community of 'men who are men.' And they don't have a stake in social manhood. So, they form a separate community. They just call it wrongly as 'men who like men' since this is a trait, owning to politics against manhood, men can't claim as their own. What I am saying is that it is wrong for the society to force men who like men from this community of 'men who are men' and merge them with the feminine males, just because the feminine gendered call themselves 'men who like men.' Liking men should not be make a male liable to be broken from the men's community. It's unjustified. A man who acknowledges his liking for men should have as much right to be in the 'men who are men' category as men who "prove a liking for women,' or a distaste for men. ----------------------------- Also, I'm not asking for anything new. That's the way its always been. That's the way it still is in the indigenous societies. And that is the way it actually is, even in the West itself. If you look behind the deceptive social facade created by 'sexual orientation.' The fact is that the 'straight' so called 'gays (as in straight-gays) spend their entire life primary in the 'men who are men' community. For all practical purposes they are part of this community. They are accepted quietly as part of the straight community, unlike the gay 'gay' who stands out and is a misfit. AND, the gay community also includes the 'queer' heterosexuals and transgendered heterosexuals, and the community is actually known as 'LGBT.' So, already, the masculine gendered males are in one category, whatever sexual orientation they may attest to, and the feminine gendered males of all sexual orientations are in one category. All I am saying is to acknowledge this fact in the actual definitions of these categories. The Western society and especially, the third genders who like men, may want to see the society as ideologically divided between 'males who like women' and 'males who like men,' but this division is far from the biological, social and historical reality of males. So, even if the society forces people to group as 'hetero-homo' people will eventually, actually regroup as 'men' and 'third genders.' Let's call a spade a spade and then fight for the dignity of every human trait.