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Honestly, I don't think I can stand to make a full response post. Idyllic did a great job of pointing out most of what I would've said anyway, and it seems pretty clear that the OP is pretty much bound and determined to interpret everything he comes across as support for his position, whether it is or not. I am officially switching this thread into the "impossible discussion" category, and am out of here.
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Dull sublunary lovers love,
Whose soul is sense, cannot admit
Absence, because it doth remove
That thing which elemented it.
(From "A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning" by John Donne)
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