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Originally Posted by Natural manhood
Don't you think it's such a big thing to know this, in itself. This is everything that the West has ever told us about men turned upside down.
Yet men sacrifice such huge parts of themselves, without ever letting out sigh, just like in the past (in tribal societies) they went through excruciatingly painful, even fatal, manhood tests, without letting out the slightest cry of pain. The only difference is that in the past they had to cut a part of their body to earn social manhood. Today, they have to cut a part of their soul, sometimes, every part of it, in order to earn social manhood.
We only hear about the oppression of women, but women have never had to go through something to this extent. Plus, they have the space to complain profusely about the slightest discomfort.
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You cut a lot of corners in order to defend one tiny facet of what you call 'manhood.' It's hard to get behind you when you trivialize something as important as the progression of rights for women. With all of your understanding of your own situation, you seem to have very little understanding of anyone else's dilemma (past or present)...and deliberately so.
You've come to a place to argue on the internet that is largely full of people who:
1. don't care who you have sex with
and
2. don't care how you define that sex once you've had it
I will regret with you the creep of Western society into places that might have been better off without it - American-style consumerism, the dilution of culture, pollution, industrial sprawl, bad kids, etc, etc. But as for any measurable effect (if any) it has had to help women escape lives of marital drudgery when that is not what they want out of life? Nope, you won't find me coming down on the 'tradition' side of that argument.