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Originally Posted by dippin
You do understand that they can ask for proof of citizenship and detain anyone for clarifications without any indication that the person committed a crime, right?
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With REASONABLE SUSPICION they can ask for proof of citizenship. LAWFUL CONTACT allows the LEO to possibly gather ARTICULABLE FACTS on ANY person, be it a suspected shoplifter, murderer, bank robber, etc. LAWFUL CONTACT allows a LEO to potentially gather ARTICULABLE FACTS that lead to either REASONABLE SUSPICION that allows him/her to detain for further questioning or PROBABLE CAUSE that allows him/her to arrest the suspect. If not enough or no articulable facts are discovered, then everybody goes on their way. In fact, the subject would have been free to tell the cop to take a hike up until the point that the cop developed REASONABLE SUSPICION.
This isn't a new thing, it's been around for quite a while.
You do understand that a LEO can LEGALLY and CONSTITUTIONALLY make 'lawful contact' with ANYONE for ANY reason whether or not they suspect that ANY crime has been committed,
and has been able to do so for as long as our country has had laws, and NOW you're claiming that illegals should be exempt from this?
What I don't think is being understood is that in Arizona border areas this will actually be a useful tool for that area's LEOs. The federal agencies are stretched out and having the local LE be able to help them out is going to result in that many more illegal immigrants being apprehended within several miles/minutes of the border than most people realize. (OPINION ALERT...) Further north, I don't think it's going to matter nearly as much; local LE are pretty much going to do what they want. Take Phoenix for example, Mayor Phil Gordon doesn't want this law anymore than you, despite Phoenix being the kidnap capitol as a direct result of illegal immigration.