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I don't think we're actually talking about different things cynthetiq. The point of determinism is that you do not actually choose, you merely think you choose because you are unaware of the underlying forces driving you toward that choice. This is demonstrated in recent neurological studies where scientists are starting to be able to predict what choice a person will make before they consciously make it.
The compatibilist argument is essentially one of perception over reality: You perceive choice, therefore choice exists regardless of deterministic factors. I prefer to focus discussion like this on the reality rather than the perception, but fully admit that the perception is what has more consequence in daily life.
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