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Originally Posted by FuglyStick
Er, civil rights legislation, for one?
Armchair anarchists
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oh wow. we had to write more laws to actually get the government to acknowledge and recognize that all people had rights. you call that expanding freedom?
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
I'm not obtuse; you're being cryptic. I tend to think of myself as one who can take a position but think with a minimum of nuance. If you see me taking an oversimplified either/or position, then call me on it. Don't continue being cryptic if it bothers you.
You're the one who said that it was a religious activity to "prepare to defend" against other entities. It just so happens that this "religious activity" involved illegal weapon stockpiles and sexual abuse allegations. You're the one wrapping it up neatly by stating how the Waco incident is a question of freedom of religion.
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I was actually quite straight forward, only addressing the failure to pay a tax on weapons. You brought religion and sexual abuse in to it. I merely called you on the fact that those weren't brought up to the public until after the disastrous first raid.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
I mentioned the allegations to point out that this wasn't a neat and tidy case of government persecuting a religious group. That seemed to be your intent at first.
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you mentioned the allegations to try to bolster your already tenuous position that the waco compound folks were originally raided because they failed to pay a tax on a weapon.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Don't you mean a threat to established law and order?
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if you wish to call it that, fine. that's not what i meant though and you know it.