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Old 04-17-2010, 04:36 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth View Post
are you intentionally being obtuse? you know as well as I, that many people on here think in binary terms, yourself included.
I'm not obtuse; you're being cryptic. I tend to think of myself as one who can take a position but think with a minimum of nuance. If you see me taking an oversimplified either/or position, then call me on it. Don't continue being cryptic if it bothers you.

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one doesn't have to do with the other. You alluded to not asking religious extremists about not paying taxes. what does that have to do with stockpiling weapons? nothing. so lets not try to wrap it all up in to one neat little package.
You're the one who said that it was a religious activity to "prepare to defend" against other entities. It just so happens that this "religious activity" involved illegal weapon stockpiles and sexual abuse allegations. You're the one wrapping it up neatly by stating how the Waco incident is a question of freedom of religion.

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what sex abuse? the allegations that were made AFTER the initial siege? those allegations that were obviously the government ploy to swing popular opinion against the 'tax evaders'?
Well, this thread is in Tilted Paranoia....

I mentioned the allegations to point out that this wasn't a neat and tidy case of government persecuting a religious group. That seemed to be your intent at first.

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the M. O. of any government is to limit and restrict freedom. History shows us this anywhere. As far as switching targets, government will go after anything and anyone it perceives as a threat to its own power.
Don't you mean a threat to established law and order?
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