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Originally Posted by dippin
And the whole "I'm more of a man because I care less" attitude in this thread is bullshit. As is the whole "I'm a manly man, therefore only I can judge the morality of anything."
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What are you talking about? Examples, please.
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Originally Posted by dippin
All those paragraphs and you still miss the point. My point wasn't whether the van could hear the gunfire, but whether it was driving towards it, which is what has been used to justify the shootings.
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You're purposely oversimplifying this. The fact that the van was moving towards the gunfire is not what has been used to justify the shooting. The fact that the van was moving towards the gunfire was one of many contributing factors.
HOWEVER, there is no question as to whether the van was moving towards the scene of the shooting. At some point or another it had to be. Thats where it got shot up.
I think it was you that missed Dunedans point. Summary: Big guns make big noise. It doesn't matter which direction the van was traveling at the time of the shooting, or if it was even in motion at the time. What does matter is the van's proximity to the scene of the shooting. As the van arrived on scene roughly 2 minutes after the shooting, one can surmise that it was pretty darn close and would have been aware of the gunfire.