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Old 04-06-2010, 08:30 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I see this as a tragic case of collateral damage due to intelligence failure and understand that horrific things happen in war. I can accept this as a tragic mistake

I cannot, by any stretch of my imagination, apply those same standards to what is going on in this massacre. They are out of weapons range of the people they say are firing at them, and they keep the camera on the guy with the obvious camera for several seconds before going around the building. The gunner is excited to kill, and it looks like he's not concerned with who's on the receiving end of it.

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...the fuck? Don't give me this 1984 we're-stomping-East-Asia bullshit. Every country swinging a uniformed army has done this kind of thing at one time or another. The Brits, the Germans, the Russians, Iraq/Iran War, South American 100-medal dictatorships, Israelis... anybody you can name. This situation is not unique. History is rife with gnarly examples. The only difference is that we don't have the other incidents on YouTube. A four minute clip does not provide deep enough context and certainly can't put you in the boots of a guy who has that kinda decision at his fingertips. For every "monster," there are a thousand normal guys who are laughing because the threat is gone and are simply grateful to be alive.
Just because everyone has done it doesn't make it right. This stands out to me as a case of cold-blooded murder, not a tragic and accidental consequence of war. When the evidence is in front of us, is would be wrong not to address these things and prosecute people who act criminally. Even if we disregard the first part of the video, firing on someone helping the wounded is a war crime under the First Geneva Convention (1864.)

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can you show the two guys with the AK?
I only see some long unidentified item, given the cameras etc. that could also be a tripod.
The circled guy in one picture and the guy with the striped shirt in the other. I could identify the camera lens, but it took a few views to be sure these guys had AKs.
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