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Old 03-30-2010, 06:06 PM   #182 (permalink)
The_Dunedan
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Questions:

1: How was this act provoked? Given the long history of federal agents provocateurs operating within Militiae and other anti-Gov't groups, and encouraging them to commit illegal acts, I look forward to seeing how this group was egged on. Remember that agents provocateurs were the instigators of violence during the Battle Of Seattle, the Ruby Ridge massacre, and that "Militia radio shock-jock" Hal Turner was recently revealed to have been on the FBI/ATF payroll for most of the last decade: time which he spent trying to stimulate and provoke violence among the FBI/ATF's target groups in the militia/patriot movement and being paid for doing so by the Federal Gov't. His whole job was to create violent criminals so that they could then be arrested and either "flipped" as informants or incarcerated as examples to the public and statistics for The Agency.

2: Was the group actually moving towards or committing an act of violence, or were they simply talking about it? "Seditious Conspiracy" has a lovely ring of Lefortovo and Pinochet about it. Knowing, or researching, or even -practicing- how to make bombs is not illegal. If you have the proper licenses (where required) making and using bombs is not illegal. It's even legal to discuss, in a theoretical sense, how an otherwise-legal bomb might be used in an insurgent or insurrectionist capacity. In my job I come into contact with large numbers of LEOs and Military personell, including a US Army bomb expert who is one of my best customers. Such conversations are hardly unusual among such people, despite the fact that neither I nor any of my customers are planning on blowing up anything more than disobliging boulders and tree-stumps. Furthermore, insurrectionist discussion and talk is likewise legal, is in fact protected by the Constitution. So long as no concrete violent act takes place or is palpably and imminently about to, discussion remains discussion, no matter how insane or ridiculous or dangerous the topic.
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