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Originally Posted by RogueGypsy
Thus the unless they were stopped part.
Romans? Yeah, they had no impact on the world. That's why we use the Latin Alphabet. Brits? No impact their either.
Looking back at almost any region, several groups moved into a single area, lived either unknown to each other or in harmony. Until the stronger group rose up and either slaughtered or assimilated the weaker. So, which is worse, the assimilation/annihilation of a culture or what you see in modern day US, Canada and Australia? What about Mexico's indigenous people? Not a lot of Mayans and Incas running around these days.
Just because it's recent history, doesn't make it the only history.
Japan has it's own little history:
In 645, Nakatomi no Kamatari started the era of the Fujiwara clan that was to last until the rise of the military class (samurai) in the 11th century. In the same year, the Taika reforms were realized: A new government and administrative system was established after the Chinese model. All land was bought by the state and redistributed equally among the farmers in a large land reform in order to introduce the new tax system that was also adopted from China. This was after taking over several island islands now part of Japan, who did not (some still do not) consider them selves Japanese.
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Natives? Ditto, every other country on the face of the earth, unless they were stopped
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Did the Romans and Brits have an impact, sure. Do they still control all the land they invaded. No.
As for Japan, you're talking, other then some small islands near the main island, about hostilities within Japan, not some foreign attacking force wiping out the indigenous people.
As for your comments on Mexico. The Incas never were in Mexico. They were in Western South America. Mexico's history includes several distinct civilizations. The main ones being Olmec, Izapa, Teotihuacan, Maya, Zapotec, Mixtec, Huastec, Tarascan, "Toltec" and Aztec. Some of these faded out prior to the arrival of the Europeans in the 16th century. After the Europeans arrived many were in fact slaughtered but really the main idea was to enslave the indigenous people, rather then wipe them out. The result has been a large number of people who are still around and are most certainly native. I live in the state of Yucatan here in Mexico. I can assure you the Mayan people and Mayan culture are alive and well. My landlord is Mayan. Most of his family speaks Mayan, Spanish and English. There are many town within a 50 mile radius of my house where the majority of people are of direct Mayan decent. I had a funny thing happened to me not long after moving here, I'd been invited to a party and at the party an older couple decided they needed to leave early. I think the husband was not feeling well. The party host asked if I could drive them home so they wouldn't have to take the bus. I said "sure." They got in my truck and I asked "which way?" They answered but I didn't understand one word. I figured my Spanish was just really, really bad. I asked "left, right, forward???" Again they spoke and spoke and spoke some more... I understood not one word. Finally in Spanish worse then mine (which is saying something) the wife stated they only speak Mayan. I got them home but only through hand gestures.
But this all started when you stated-
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I'll remind every United States Citizen here today, no matter your political, religious or social views. You are here today because you, or one of your ancestors, said 'Fuck You' to the rat hole over governed twat of a country from whence you were spawned. And now some of you would like to not only take that right from the rest of the world, but you would like to 'reform' us in their image. To you I say; there is an airport in every major city in the US, go find one, buy a ticket, get on a plane and have a great fuckin' day.
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That is unless of course your ancestors lived on the North American Continent 500-or 600 plus years ago. Then you're here because you manged to survive what the invading peoples did to your peoples.
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Natives? Ditto, every other country on the face of the earth, unless they were stopped.
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Nothing you've posted shows all nations have either been taken over or fought off some invading foreign force. I believe your understanding of world history is a bit lacking.
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Originally Posted by RogueGypsy
Yeah, that swings both ways with the media now doesn't it.
Think of all the Liberals who were gnashing their teeth and crying in the streets over the heinous acts of the Bush's in the middle east. Now strangely quiet with Obama in office.
It's all a sick evil joke. So what is it this week? Laugh or Cry?
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I agree with much of what you're saying here. I think the news is reporting on the protests currently happening by the right. Though Fox is more cheer leading then reporting. It's not reporting when your producers stand behind the reporter and make gestures to whip up the crowd. It's also not reporting when you use footage that's two months old to show what a huge crowd has gathered to protest.
I think the left was upset with Bush over a lot more then just his actions in the Middle East. Just as I think the right is upset with Obama for a lot more then just the health care law.
Personally I think it's important to note that Bush was elected by 50.7% to Kerry's 48.3%. Not exactly a mandate. Obama won with 53% to McCain's 47%. Again not exactly a mandate. But as you pointed out when Bush won and was in office many on the left were "gnashing their teeth and crying in the streets." Now that Obama is POTUS we're seeing the same thing by people on the right.
So laugh or cry seems to depend on whether or not your side is in power.