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Old 03-27-2010, 12:54 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Idyllic View Post
ObamaCare, the future of America.
First of all, I have a question: do you want us to take you seriously?

Second, I don't know where Dick Morris is getting his data, but the WHO numbers show that between Canada and the U.S. the cancer mortality rates are far more parallel.

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This is a logical outcome, you all know the possibility of this happening is relevant, and yet you all seem to be holding hand and singing kum by ya, reality isn’t a one sided perspective, in all matters, the “facts” come from both sides. This scenario is just as much a reality for America as it is not and as much as I am a believer of American Exceptionalism, I just don’t see how we are going to get around the facts and the reality of this bill.
The cost of universal health care and the challenges it poses to budgets in the developed world is something that needs to be addressed. The problem with the U.S. is not universal health care in itself, it's the cost of health care period. It is much higher than it is compared to most (if not all) developed nations. The costs need to be reigned in somehow. Also, the U.S. needs to reexamine its overall budget. It might want to consider the dollars it spends on its military budget. I don't think its currently getting a good return for its investment. How's that for a reality?

As for "American Exceptionalism," I don't think I know what that is. All I can say at this point is that it sounds like a myth.

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It really is that basic and that simple the economics of this bill and the payments we will make just don’t equal up to freedom, let alone a relevant cohesive health care system. We can do Better than this, we have to do better than this, for all our children and our parents, we must do better than where this bill will lead our society.
And how does an accountant record "freedom" on the ledger and balance sheet?

If you need something better, how do you propose getting health care to all members of American society?

I know they did it wrong. It's not quite universal health care so much as it is a national insurance plan.

What should be done?
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