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Please identify that section of the bill that mentions DHS.
I assume you are referring to the language that excludes undocumented workers from participating in the Exchange.
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I'll have to look it up to give you exact lines, but yes that was part of it. I also recall, aside from 'undocumented individuals', any citizenship confirmations will go through them. Why isn't INS handling that? Did HLS swallow them up or are 'undocumented individuals' considered threats to the security of the country and therefore terrorists?
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Imagine the outcry from the opposition if the bill did not exclude those persons.
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I agree, but it won't be an issue after the amnesty is pushed through, will it.
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Oh...and IRS agents will not be knocking on doors to determine if you have signed up for insurance in the Exchange.
What the IRS will do is similar to a current 1099 where a bank sends IRS a statement that says “here’s the interest” someone owes, and they send it to the taxpayer.
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I didn't mean to imply they were going to be knocking on your door to make sure you signed up. I believe I said they would be, as they are now, responsible for enforcing any tax evasion laws that may apply.
I think it would be great if this all ran smoothly, I just don't see it happening. And the appointment of these two particular offices seems fairly ominous to me. I don't see the bill doing very much for what it costs either.
We can't be dropped from a plan.
We can't be excluded for pre-existing conditions.
How insurers will be regulated is still unclear and according to the CBO, -notorious for under-estimating- for most, rates will increase 10%-13% and I don't consider $400/mo to be anywhere near affordable.
Doctors and the care they give will be regulated -which I don't see as very necessary-.
We get 'no cost' preventative care.
32 million uninsured get insurance.
All that for a measly 940 Billion dollars over the next ten years. Again a CBO estimate.
I read a statistic that said 38% of health care in the US is employee overhead. Which this bill is designed to reduce. To reduce this overhead of the providers it creates 111 new government offices and in the neighbor hood of 10,000 new government jobs, to oversee it. Maybe this is new math and I don't get it, but the numbers don't add up. What's the plan? Take the money from the people doing the work and give it to the people standing in the corner pocking them with a stick saying 'you can't do that'?
Personally, I'd prefer to see a single payer system, with everyone on the same plan, and little government involvement.
I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind on this issue. Everyone sees it in their own way. I see it as a recipe for disaster with potential for catastrophic disaster. Giving an out-of-touch, corrupt system this much control over the population can only end badly.