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boink · 03-25-2010, 10:51 PM

hard to say. for instance, I have no kids, so I don't think I should pay taxes for schools. however it bothers me worse to think how horribly uneducated some people are, and what masses of uneducated people do. I'm willing to pay for a general populace of educated neighbors I guess. I mean, how bad are you willing to let it get for the masses before you decide you'd be willing to chip in for an overall more pleasant society.
I drive by 6-7 off ramp beggars on my way home every day and 2-3 homeless encampments. then at work I install custom metalwork in high end offices and mostly homes. 10 years ago I can't think of any off ramp beggars and the rich people spend CRAZY money on stuff and it only ever gotten bigger.

my girlfriends brother is a hopeless alcoholic. it's cheaper for society to house him and give him a little money for food than it is drag him off the streets and run him to the emergency room and detox all the time. so he gets a free apartment and food stamps, his apartment is larger then mine.

it bugs me, him getting a free ride, but then I'm told it's cheaper overall and frankly I don't want to trip over his drunk ass on the sidewalk, or anyone like him.
I don't want to live in a society full of sick decrepit uneducated scum everywhere even if I do get to live in a fenced in gated community, which I never will. that costs something and I think it's overall worth it. I mean I wouldn't say people have a RIGHT to liposuction, or perfect teeth...but somewhere there is a list of basic health and medical services that could be agreed upon as a basic benifit of being a taxpayer.

personally I like the idea of the medical industry becoming non profit, globally. I mean morally it seems wrong to profit on this. PBS is non profit and overall it's some of the highest quality programing there is.

03-25-2010, 10:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
boink Addict Location: Seattle	hard to say. for instance, I have no kids, so I don't think I should pay taxes for schools. however it bothers me worse to think how horribly uneducated some people are, and what masses of uneducated people do. I'm willing to pay for a general populace of educated neighbors I guess. I mean, how bad are you willing to let it get for the masses before you decide you'd be willing to chip in for an overall more pleasant society. I drive by 6-7 off ramp beggars on my way home every day and 2-3 homeless encampments. then at work I install custom metalwork in high end offices and mostly homes. 10 years ago I can't think of any off ramp beggars and the rich people spend CRAZY money on stuff and it only ever gotten bigger. my girlfriends brother is a hopeless alcoholic. it's cheaper for society to house him and give him a little money for food than it is drag him off the streets and run him to the emergency room and detox all the time. so he gets a free apartment and food stamps, his apartment is larger then mine. it bugs me, him getting a free ride, but then I'm told it's cheaper overall and frankly I don't want to trip over his drunk ass on the sidewalk, or anyone like him. I don't want to live in a society full of sick decrepit uneducated scum everywhere even if I do get to live in a fenced in gated community, which I never will. that costs something and I think it's overall worth it. I mean I wouldn't say people have a RIGHT to liposuction, or perfect teeth...but somewhere there is a list of basic health and medical services that could be agreed upon as a basic benifit of being a taxpayer. personally I like the idea of the medical industry becoming non profit, globally. I mean morally it seems wrong to profit on this. PBS is non profit and overall it's some of the highest quality programing there is. Last edited by boink; 03-25-2010 at 10:57 PM..