Originally Posted by Idyllic

There is a place you can go to calculate what this bill means to you monetarily and yes, anyone making over 35,000.00 will be paying, one way or another, actually both, insurance and taxes. Some people will be hurt by these additional fees, fact.

There has been a great deal of discussion about how this bill will water down medicare, that is a fact, whether it happens or not is yet to be seen.

It will not be the bureaucrats, it will be who the bureaucrats put in the position of making decisions, along with the insurance companies, they will be the regulators and money handlers, the gov will just pay the bill.

They may not pull the plug on grandma, but they will definitely help her put her hand on it if she wants to. They will lean more towards respectful death than a vegi life, which I actually agree with, but that's my warped thinking. They will not be advocates for or attempt to sell late in life extreme measures to preserve the living, it would be fiscally irresponsible of them to try and keep old people alive, simple economics that one.