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Originally Posted by filtherton
Pan, it's pretty clear to me that what this is all about in reality has little connection with what this is all about in your head. No offense, I think you're a good guy and all, but it's difficult to have this conversation over and over again.
The real reason this situation is so sad is that it isn't really sad, but that there is a great deal of political hay to be made by making it seem more tragic than it actually is.
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Filtherton, if you took a moment to try to see it from pans' POV maybe you could concede a little in the "we don't want to give up any freedom period" issue, but funny as you say pans' argument is all just reality in his head it echos the same in yours just the other side.
I think you are both throwing rocks at the same mound, just not realizing your both trying to fill up the same hole. I think its rude to assume he doesn't understand your point of view and say he is out of touch with the reality of the situation when you have never once conceded the fact that you really may be giving up quite a bit of freedom, quite a bit, and yet repeatedly both pan and I and most who are debating this are not suggesting preventing health care for all, just attempting to insure Americans basic freedoms as well.