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I appreciate this man. It's not hard. You can get pissy and start trying to personally attack or you can show where the differences lie and let the other decide for themselves once they see the actual text.
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You act like people have been hiding the bill(s) from you. Except, as all bills, they've been posted online. Then when you were given direct links to the bill in this discussion, and your own video told you exactly where to look, you wouldn't even take the time to click the link, instead demanding that someone do the work for you and post it here. It's nice that Charlatan did, but frankly I didn't have the time or patience to put that kind of time into it when I already knew the outcome. Why did I know the outcome? Because videos like the one you posted and similar e-mails have been making the rounds for a year now, and they're almost always wrong. I hate to break it to you pan, but you're not special (and neither are the rest of us). If you post a propaganda video that cites specific passages of something, you can't refuse to click a damn link to see those passages and act like other people are the ones keeping you in the dark.
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I also agree that the video is a scare tactic, however, if the true text of the bill CAN IN ANYWAY be legally interpreted as described by the video then there are issues that need to be resolved.
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I'll save you the time, since again you apparently refuse to open Adobe Reader yourself: they can't.
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As for the bills HR3200 and HR3296 are relatively the same not much was changed. But if the bill numbers want someone to try to get others to believe the bill is almost totally different then so let them.
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You know, I don't know exactly how different the bills are, but you know what I do know? You're equally lacking in knowledge. I didn't read either bill in its entirety, and you won't even
open either bill in its entirety. The point was not that the bill that passed is entirely different, but that propaganda is bad enough on its own, but even worse when it's not even talking about the bill that's being considered. For all you or 1NationUnder1God3in1 know, the new bill could have changed all the sections your video references. Kind of pointless to be basing arguments on 5 month old bills, no matter how similar they may or may not be.
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It is in no way good for this country. Even Reps. that voted for it say that. Some reps that voted for it admit they have no idea all that is in it. I find that somewhat foolish and it tells me they just wanted to pass something.
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Citation please. And, no, a representative saying they're not
eager about this bill is not the same as a representative saying this bill is bad for America. Seeing as how we've already established you're a special voice expert for Dennis Kucinich, though, I don't expect you to understand that.
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I also find it funny that Dems are more willing to attack and work on destroying someone and heighten concerns and paranoia and anger over the bill rather than stand up the bill proudly and show what they passed.
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Really? Like
this link that is easily accessible from the House website and the first Google result for H.R. 3962? (Warning: that's a pdf file of the whole bill, I know how you hate to open those and look for yourself)