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Originally Posted by Shauk
Sounds decent enough, now can you tell me why my conservative friends are quoting hitler and marx on my facebook feed because the bill passed?
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it” Adolf Hitler
"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them."
Karl Marx
are these people just brain damaged or what?
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As you can see, there is a lot of misinformation out there on the bill. There was a case to be made against this bill, but the republicans chose to go the "make absurd claims" route. That created the interesting case where in polls where individuals were asked explicitly about provisions in the plan, they overwhelmingly supported it, but when they were asked simply if they support the current bill, support would be 50/50.
As much as this bill in being touted as something revolutionary, it is actually mostly subsidies for some and tax increases for others, with some new insurance regulations. It is not national health care, government run health care, or anything like that. The rage will subsidy once people realize that their lives didn't change that much, if at all.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
It's the wrong bill. The Dems passed this in a way that was a pure power grab with backroom deals and BS. The only windfalls will be for the insurance companies. If you say "we'll better the bill in reconciliation" you've already admitted that you KNOW you passed a bad bill.
They didn't take their time and truly find the best bill possible. To me that shows they cared nothing about true reform or getting people covered, it was all about POWER.
They didn't look into a true public option and seeing if they could make it work. They didn't even consider a sliding scale fee with a maximum lifetime out of pocket (which I advocate). They ramrodded something EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM KNEW was the wrong bill. And it is quite obvious by the way they passed it.
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Other than the "no public option" part, what specific parts of the bill don't you like? Let's not turn this thread into another vent and rant thread without factual information.