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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Post a link to ONE such interview, please....where Kucinich said he was "browbeaten" or "had no choice"
Every interview I saw, he explained why he changed his vote even though he does not believe the bill is perfect.
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Go to WTAM.com look under Trivisonno and play the interview.
I held out hope that Kucinich would stand up and change back. I find it sadly funny you care more about where I say he said he was browbeaten and had no choice than the fact the party destroyed the man. How pathetic.
Get what you want at any cost, huh?
Isn't that what we stood against W for? Didn't we feel W did the same thing? And now, the leaders of this party are far worse and have done far more damage than W EVER DID. (And I have never been a W fan, so please don't go there.)
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Originally Posted by filtherton
If this is what made you lose all your respect for him, then I would suggest that perhaps you haven't been paying attention. The same could be said of anyone who felt "sucker punched" by the announcement of a withdrawal date. He's been pretty clear about his goals as president. It sounds to me like you're disappointed with the fact that he was able to follow through with his goals.
I'm just saying, it you're disappointed with anyone, it should be the leadership of the Republican party for its inability to muster up enough blind, seething, misplaced, fearful, misinformed enmity to successfully stymie the president's efforts. You should be disappointed that they couldn't come up with something more plausible and more fear inducing than "death panels". You should be disappointed that they couldn't come up with something scarier and less familiar than socialism to use as a motivator. You should be disappointed that the Republican party fucked up the country so badly when they were in power that they couldn't help but put the Democrats in a position to pass this legislation. The last person you should be disappointed in is Obama.
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And again, I reiterate my OP: because of what you listed and other reasons, the GOP committed political suicide, maybe not as much as the Dems tho.
The Libertarian Party right now is probably salivating over the fact they will have a serious influx of people joining now.