Originally Posted by RogueGypsy

I'm still confused over why we have to destroy and rebuild a system that only 10% of the population needs, half of which don't care. I thought this was a democracy, doesn't that mean majority?

That aside, I believe reform is needed. Just not in the form of a 2000 page bill being shoved down our throats. How many people do you think have actually read or understand the bill and of them how many are voting on it?

Personally I don't care if it's a creature of the left or the right, it's political bullshit. No one is discussing what the bill actually says, just ranting about the right hating Oblahblah, or the left being so entrenched up his ass they can't see through the shit. This bill will affect every industry, business and individual in the country and these assholes are trying to shove it down our throats without the common courtesy of a clear and concise explanation of what it entails. If it were the all glorious solution they claim it to be, why can't they explain it? Surely if it's as great as they claim everyone would be on board and it would pass with no resistance.

I'm just sayin'. Whenever something has to happen 'right now' or I'm getting the 'hard sell'. My bullshit flag raises immediately and this bill sent it flying high.

I think everyone needs to put down the political blinders, back away slowly and take a deep breath. Forget who proposed what and why, read the document in it's entirety and develop an informed opinion based on what we've read.

As far as socialized medicine goes, like communism, it looks great on paper, but it just doesn't work. To model our system on the failing systems already out there is idiotic. We have a chance to truly reform medical care in a meaningful and significant way. To throw that away based on politics is treasonous. Some think it's just hype that socialized medicine is a failure, but all you have to do is look at the numbers; they're bankrupt or heading that way fast. It's been world headlines since before this debate began. Those who can afford too, come here for treatment instead of using their own systems. Those who can't are stuck in months, sometimes years long waiting lists. How exactly is this better than what we have?

Why do we have to cater to the lowest common denominator? Why can't we strive to achieve what the rest of the world only dreams of?

I say we write some serious tort reform, freeze insurance premiums for 10 years and send everyone in favor of socialized medicine to live in a country with a socialized system for 10 years. When they come back we vote. Really what's 10 years compared to the rest of your life and your children's lives and their children's lives? There is no substitute for real world experience. Further more, if it's good enough for the masses, then it is absolutely good enough for public servants. It should be mandatory for all government employees if it is for us. WTF is up with the double standard?