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Old 03-21-2010, 10:50 AM   #160 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Idyllic View Post
Culmination of thoughts reviewed, personal observations and opinions, but why I feel the way I do about this bill.
Perhaps you'd feel differently if you chose objective, non conjecture-based sources of information upon which to base your perspective.

Really. Your first link is someone asking to see the actual bill so they can compare it with a shockingly specific list of things supposedly in the bill. If they haven't seen the bill, where did they get this list? I imagine it was pulled out of someone's ass. And yet you present it like it's fact.

Your quote from Workforce Management is full of innuendo, doesn't really link anything in Mass to anything that will happen under the current bill. Though it does say "Look at how things are bad for some folks in Mass. It is possible that things might be bad for similar people on a national scale if the bill currently under consideration passes." It also says that some people are opting to work less to qualify for benefits. Odd that it doesn't give any sort of number to quantify how many people are actually working less to qualify for benefits.

And the last part about the lady who has to work multiple jobs is occuring everywhere around the country right now. That means that it isn't an "example of what this change you’ll be paying for will buy you and your neighbors." It's actually an example of the status quo.

And, an op-ed from one doctor doesn't mean anything. Especially one who relies so heavily on meaningless anecdotal evidence like "I believe most physicians – all those I have spoken with – oppose a new government health plan because, if designed like existing government plans, we likely have many restrictions, rationing of care and denial of coverage for studies and other support physicians need to provide first-rate care."

"All the physicians" he has spoken with isn't really a reliable source of evidence. What if he's only spoken to three physicians? Especially when "all the physicians'" criticisms of a government plan are true of the status quo.

Last I heard, the entire American Medical Association was on board with this thing, and I bet they've spoken with more physicians than Kevin Kennedy.

I mean, it's clear that you're going to believe whatever you want to believe based on whatever the phrases "American Exceptionalism" and "American Constitutional Values" mean to you and whatever random assortment of rhetorical flourishes appeal to your preconceived notions.

I have no illusions that the current bill will solve all our problems. I am fairly certain that it won't destroy our nation, though I will admit that if the bill passes, I expect there will by a great deal of hysterics from the opposition and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if some of more unhinged resort to violence of some sort.

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