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Old 03-21-2010, 05:27 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70 View Post
Thing is, dogzilla, you're in a conservative minority if you actually want to cut social security, medicare, etc (not to mention an extreme minority among Americans in general)...

Unfortunately, Social Security is not likely to go away since the government has tied up so much of the people's money in it. I wouldn't want Social Security to be shut down either, unless I had some way to get my money out of it first.

Unfortunately, Social Security is also going to be broke sometime around 2037.

So now we have a government which can't run an efficient Social Security program, and can't run an efficient Medicare program that wants to fund another program to the tune of some $900 billion over the next decade. I don't believe for a second that this program will be run any better, nor do I believe that Obama isn't going to find more ways to raise working people's taxes (A mandatory insurance premium required by the government is a tax)

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Originally Posted by Idyllic View Post
Somebodies got to pay for this, the backs of a already burdened working class will just become more broken as they struggle with this new reduction of their income. This is not the solution for Health care. Raise taxes on smokers, on drinkers, on high fat food restaurants, there are a myriad of places and taxes that could pay this and not force every single person to have to pay for health insurance, this is just ridiculous.
I used to not care about the taxes on smokers, but now not so much. Smokers have become just another politically acceptable source of increased tax revenues.

Now there is discussion about imposing taxes on 'fat foods' where this has become another politically correct way to raise taxes on people. I happen to like non-diet soda and pizza. I do not like the taste of artificial sweeteners, and at least one gives me headaches. I also have never been overweight. Granted, the tax on soda isn't going to break my budget, nor is it likely to make me give it up, but I resent the government 'punishing' me for something I didn't do.

If Obama wants to impose a national health care plan, let him do it without sticking me with the bill.
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