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I don't really understand a lot of your points.
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Ask for clarification.
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I think it's because you're often so busy arguing against *anything* you view as oppositional that you just go off on weird ass tangents.
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I like to have my thoughts challenged and I like exchanges with people who are willing to stand toe to toe and defend their views. I go where discussions flow. When a view is presented that is nonsensical to me I often use an example to illustrate it. For example, I asked a simple question - Is NASCAR art? No one answered the question, but pretended the question was pure nonsense of its face. NASCAR is an art form. They could have simply answered the question and we would have moved on to the bigger issue related to the question in the context of the post. Instead there were personal attacks.
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When Roachboy is talking about "the right" he's talking about the organized political party, not what you may or may not believe as an individual.
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In the past I tried to dig into the notion of individual actions in relationship to collective actions. I do not see how one can understand one without the other. Roach has never responded to this line of inquiry although it has been presented to him on several occasions. Why?
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Since he's made this point abundantly clear over the years, I didn't feel the need to reiterate it.
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I disagree with the idea of clarity in his points. I have often asked specific questions to help me understand his points, those questions go ignored. Why?
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But since you asked, yes, harping on a "level playing field" is consistent with the gist of what he was getting at. The more you post, the more slips out that your ideas consistently regurgitate the Republican party's position so I wouldn't be surprised if you post some more that your comments would fit into the mold you're questioning.
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You call it "regurgitate", I have been told I am "disingenuous", etc, setting a certain tone. When asked I give the basis of my views. I am conservative, hence my point of view is consistent with that point of view. I have given examples of the books I have read that have influenced my views, I state my biases, I state when I am closed or open to new ideas, I acknowledge my weaknesses, I cite sources, I acknowledge when I don't get it, I ask for clarification, etc, etc, etc.. Like I said I want to be challenged
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It'd take less time to look up the definition of a market economy than sit here and try to trip someone up when you're clearly wrong.
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If it is so clear, explain it.
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Since you've expressed a desire in the past to play the "I'm just a common foke who doesn't get big wurds spoked by dem norheastern liberuls" rather than an articulate and educated conservative, there isn't much point in me continuing to question whether you understand the defining characteristics of a market economy.
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I have stated many times that I have a strong bias against people who come across as trying to be intellectually superior to others because of their "education", school, station in life, where they live, or the kind of coffee they drink. Obama is a perfect example of the type of person I have a bias against, sure occasionally I poke fun at these people, but I know I do it and I know why I do it. I also tell people about my bias. Are other as open with their biases. There is a reason why I used NASCAR as an example earlier, I was not surprised by the reaction, are you?
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I don't want to comment too much on this bizarre confusion you're having over the NASCAR vs. art sponsorship. It's not frustrating, just pointless.
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I think the confusion is in how some narrowly define "art". Once one takes a broader view one will see the point and understand.
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And, except for fire fighting, all of the activities you listed are taught and encouraged in primary education and extra-curricular activities so your list confirms my point instead of refuting it. Go back and re-read the discussion between us if you can't understand how that is the case.
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I don't support public funds being used for "extra-curricular" activities. Schools should focus on basic education. Other activities should be supported by participants, parents, and people who want to use their money to sponsor or support such activities. People who love theater, should support programs for young people to get them involved in theater. It is sad that people want, but are not willing to make sacrifice. Thier first thought is to let someone else sacrifice.