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Idyllic · 03-15-2010, 04:02 PM

dippin.....
Just To Many Good People To Remember. Hell, I went to school, college even and half these people I had to google, God I love that word…..

[re: Cesar ChaveZ and Thurgood Marshall and don’t forget Neil Armstrong he almost got cut from science…. by: Katherine Haenschen, Sun Sep 20, 2009 at 05:47 PM CDT
remove Cesar Chavez and Thurgood Marshall from the history books, as the Dallas Morning News report Other famous folks potentially soon-to-be-stricken from the historical record, as taught by our Texas textbooks? Carl Sagan, Colin Powell, Nathan Hale, Eugene Debs, John Steinbeck and Mother Teresa. Well, not too many shockers there. Debs was an avowed Socialist, Mother Teresa ministered to the suffering, and Steinbeck wrote about the plight of the poor. Hale fought for American independence against the British, rather than Texan independence from America. Powell has three strikes against him: prominent African American, endorsed Barack Obama, and spoke out against the Bush administration. As for Sagan, his science fiction probably counts as religious blasphemy to some of the SBOE members. You’ll find this at Burnt Orange]

This sounds serious, I hope PTA members and Teachers stood up for what they believed to be right, otherwise there kids learned what they deserved….. (I am a little joking here). next

[Texas May Bar Students from Learning About Cesar Chavez, Thurgood Marshall, By Ben | July 20, 2009 - 4:04pm From the AFL-CIO's blog:
United Farmworkers founder César Chávez is an unfitting role model for students, and former Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall is not an appropriate historical figure. So say “expert reviewers” in their report to the Texas State Board of Education, which recommends removing the two U.S. leaders from the social studies curriculum taught to its 4.7 million public school students.
The ranting of these extremists has the potential to turn into mass censorship—Texas is such a mega-purchaser of textbooks that the state’s required curricula drives the content of textbooks produced nationwide.]

What….. they can’t BAR my kids from learning anything, that’s my job, regardless though, I think BARRED is a bit indulgent….. listen at 5th grade you can GOOGLE, love that word, anything you want, how many kids you think care about this stuff. I think there trying to say focus on the Biggies, the ones that may catch their attention, Malcolm, MLK, etc. I’m not saying that Chavez and Marshall aren’t important, they really are, but how big do you want these text books to be. Next they will be complaining about how the weight of these entire books are hurting our kids backs, oh wait, they already have. We are talking about 5th graders, 10 and 11 year old, you’re lucky if you can get them to remember their multiples. Jiminy, save some of the good stuff for when they may be interested. If ever. No, I’m not saying they aren’t important, again; it really depends on what your interests and field of study are. At this age, teach the basics. They can barely see past their own hormones. Oh, and not ALL the “expert reviewers” said that Chavez and Thurgood should not be in the SS books. More...

[Texas Board of Education Wants to Change History, By Lauri Lebo, August 12, 2009
Texas is the second largest purchaser of textbooks in the country. If conservative Christians on the Texas Board of Ed panel prevail in their wish to leave Ann Hutchinson (trouble maker!), Cesar Chavez, and Thurgood Marshall out of the social studies curriculum, all US schools could be affected.
“It is appropriate to teach the right of free speech, but it is also incumbent to teach the responsibilities accompanying free speech; that of accuracy, civility, truth and good taste.” —David Barton
If any question remains about the religious and political motivations of certain members of the Texas Board of Education, one need only read the words of their social studies curriculum experts.]

O.kayyy…. first, love David Barton, second, this part next, it scares me…..

[Rev. Peter Marshall (one of their appointed academic experts), for example, wants to restore America, according to the Web site of his Massachusetts-based ministry, “to its Bible-based foundations through preaching, teaching, and writing on America’s Christian heritage and on Christian discipleship and revival.” He also believes that Hurricane Katrina, Watergate, and the Vietnam War are the result of divine wrath.]

Well, all the sudden, not real fond of the google….. and reallllly not liking the “Rev” eeewww, just icky. He gives people who believe in God a bad name. This is where I revert to the venerable George Washington Carver who said “The out of doors has been to me more and more a great cathedral in which God could be continuously spoken to and heard from." I don’t need anybody to tell me how wacko crazy that “REVEREND” (I use that term loosely) Marshall is, I just need to listen. That’s exactly what these parents are doing, and exactly what the PTA is for. See I can be convinced, a little. This is older news, last summer. Anybody have an update on what WAS accomplished in these books…. I am curious as to how the public debated this. It was big, a lot involved and it seems like some decent decision may have been made, as it is no longer current topic, nice tie in though. Onward we go, kinda.

[12:00 AM CDT on Thursday, July 9, 2009, By TERRENCE STUTZ / The Dallas Morning News: Anne Hutchinson, a New England pioneer and early advocate of women's rights and religious freedom, who was tried and banished from her Puritan colony in Massachusetts because of her nontraditional views. "She was certainly not a significant colonial leader, and didn't accomplish anything except getting herself exiled from the Massachusetts Bay Colony for making trouble," Marshall wrote. "Anne Hutchinson does not belong in the company of these eminent gentlemen," he said, referring to colonial leaders William Penn, Roger Williams and others. Williams later invited Hutchinson to help establish a colony in what became Rhode Island.]

Creepy Rev. Marshall alert, I feel like I need to hear alarms before that man talks! You see, I should be really pissed off that they don’t want to include Anne, I mean come on fellows, give us girls some love…..when do they start talking about the impact women had on the U.S., nevermind. If you think you can do a better job than do it. I still think, mostly (except that creepy Rev guy) they are just trying to keep the kids interested and not overwhelmed, life does that enough. Oh, want to know how I learned about George Washinton Carver, well, my first grader had to do a report for Black History Month. GW Carver is considered obscure and not necessarily taught in most school books today and yet this man was EXTRODINARY, why was he left out?

Weren’t we talking about something that happened, like, yesterday….this is just so fun….

03-15-2010, 04:02 PM	#26 (permalink)
Idyllic Psycho Location: My House	dippin..... Just To Many Good People To Remember. Hell, I went to school, college even and half these people I had to google, God I love that word….. [re: Cesar ChaveZ and Thurgood Marshall and don’t forget Neil Armstrong he almost got cut from science…. by: Katherine Haenschen, Sun Sep 20, 2009 at 05:47 PM CDT remove Cesar Chavez and Thurgood Marshall from the history books, as the Dallas Morning News report Other famous folks potentially soon-to-be-stricken from the historical record, as taught by our Texas textbooks? Carl Sagan, Colin Powell, Nathan Hale, Eugene Debs, John Steinbeck and Mother Teresa. Well, not too many shockers there. Debs was an avowed Socialist, Mother Teresa ministered to the suffering, and Steinbeck wrote about the plight of the poor. Hale fought for American independence against the British, rather than Texan independence from America. Powell has three strikes against him: prominent African American, endorsed Barack Obama, and spoke out against the Bush administration. As for Sagan, his science fiction probably counts as religious blasphemy to some of the SBOE members. You’ll find this at Burnt Orange] This sounds serious, I hope PTA members and Teachers stood up for what they believed to be right, otherwise there kids learned what they deserved….. (I am a little joking here). next [Texas May Bar Students from Learning About Cesar Chavez, Thurgood Marshall, By Ben \| July 20, 2009 - 4:04pm From the AFL-CIO's blog: United Farmworkers founder César Chávez is an unfitting role model for students, and former Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall is not an appropriate historical figure. So say “expert reviewers” in their report to the Texas State Board of Education, which recommends removing the two U.S. leaders from the social studies curriculum taught to its 4.7 million public school students. The ranting of these extremists has the potential to turn into mass censorship—Texas is such a mega-purchaser of textbooks that the state’s required curricula drives the content of textbooks produced nationwide.] What….. they can’t BAR my kids from learning anything, that’s my job, regardless though, I think BARRED is a bit indulgent….. listen at 5th grade you can GOOGLE, love that word, anything you want, how many kids you think care about this stuff. I think there trying to say focus on the Biggies, the ones that may catch their attention, Malcolm, MLK, etc. I’m not saying that Chavez and Marshall aren’t important, they really are, but how big do you want these text books to be. Next they will be complaining about how the weight of these entire books are hurting our kids backs, oh wait, they already have. We are talking about 5th graders, 10 and 11 year old, you’re lucky if you can get them to remember their multiples. Jiminy, save some of the good stuff for when they may be interested. If ever. No, I’m not saying they aren’t important, again; it really depends on what your interests and field of study are. At this age, teach the basics. They can barely see past their own hormones. Oh, and not ALL the “expert reviewers” said that Chavez and Thurgood should not be in the SS books. More... [Texas Board of Education Wants to Change History, By Lauri Lebo, August 12, 2009 Texas is the second largest purchaser of textbooks in the country. If conservative Christians on the Texas Board of Ed panel prevail in their wish to leave Ann Hutchinson (trouble maker!), Cesar Chavez, and Thurgood Marshall out of the social studies curriculum, all US schools could be affected. “It is appropriate to teach the right of free speech, but it is also incumbent to teach the responsibilities accompanying free speech; that of accuracy, civility, truth and good taste.” —David Barton If any question remains about the religious and political motivations of certain members of the Texas Board of Education, one need only read the words of their social studies curriculum experts.] O.kayyy…. first, love David Barton, second, this part next, it scares me….. [Rev. Peter Marshall (one of their appointed academic experts), for example, wants to restore America, according to the Web site of his Massachusetts-based ministry, “to its Bible-based foundations through preaching, teaching, and writing on America’s Christian heritage and on Christian discipleship and revival.” He also believes that Hurricane Katrina, Watergate, and the Vietnam War are the result of divine wrath.] Well, all the sudden, not real fond of the google….. and reallllly not liking the “Rev” eeewww, just icky. He gives people who believe in God a bad name. This is where I revert to the venerable George Washington Carver who said “The out of doors has been to me more and more a great cathedral in which God could be continuously spoken to and heard from." I don’t need anybody to tell me how wacko crazy that “REVEREND” (I use that term loosely) Marshall is, I just need to listen. That’s exactly what these parents are doing, and exactly what the PTA is for. See I can be convinced, a little. This is older news, last summer. Anybody have an update on what WAS accomplished in these books…. I am curious as to how the public debated this. It was big, a lot involved and it seems like some decent decision may have been made, as it is no longer current topic, nice tie in though. Onward we go, kinda. [12:00 AM CDT on Thursday, July 9, 2009, By TERRENCE STUTZ / The Dallas Morning News: Anne Hutchinson, a New England pioneer and early advocate of women's rights and religious freedom, who was tried and banished from her Puritan colony in Massachusetts because of her nontraditional views. "She was certainly not a significant colonial leader, and didn't accomplish anything except getting herself exiled from the Massachusetts Bay Colony for making trouble," Marshall wrote. "Anne Hutchinson does not belong in the company of these eminent gentlemen," he said, referring to colonial leaders William Penn, Roger Williams and others. Williams later invited Hutchinson to help establish a colony in what became Rhode Island.] Creepy Rev. Marshall alert, I feel like I need to hear alarms before that man talks! You see, I should be really pissed off that they don’t want to include Anne, I mean come on fellows, give us girls some love…..when do they start talking about the impact women had on the U.S., nevermind. If you think you can do a better job than do it. I still think, mostly (except that creepy Rev guy) they are just trying to keep the kids interested and not overwhelmed, life does that enough. Oh, want to know how I learned about George Washinton Carver, well, my first grader had to do a report for Black History Month. GW Carver is considered obscure and not necessarily taught in most school books today and yet this man was EXTRODINARY, why was he left out? Weren’t we talking about something that happened, like, yesterday….this is just so fun….