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Old 03-10-2010, 02:24 PM   #38 (permalink)
james t kirk
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Originally Posted by aceventura3 View Post
What if that person got training to become a masseuse? They could make close to $30,000 with flexible hours and a virtual endless supply of potential clients.

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What if they became a nurse?



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Or maybe they could become powersellers on EBAY:

30 grand a year?

That's a good job?

That's $14.00 an hour.

Don't get me wrong, it an honest day's pay. But when you consider the cost of living, 30k a year is not a good salary.



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Oh, and if they work at Wal-Mart, they might start at $8 per hour as a part-time employee, but they could get a few raises, go full-time, get a few promotions and before you know it they might even start saving, buying stock in the company, contribute to their retirement, and enjoy a happy life having worked at Wal-Mart.


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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Ontario's manufacturing industry was the hardest hit in Canada. For generations, Ontario has been a steady "have" province, but has been the talk of the nation as becoming a "have-not" as a result of their decimated sector.

Just yesterday, it was announced by the premier that there will be a new focus on education as an export: they want to boost enrolment of international students by 50% over five years.

This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. The post-secondary education industry in Ontario is strong, so the province is leveraging that to help pull it out of its economic doldrums. Boosting the enrolment like this will require more education-related workers, but it will also require indirect workers to support that sector.

It's not like the premier could have as easy a time convincing American auto manufacturers to make more cars. (He's already been doing that.) So he does something else. Changing times, changing strategies. Find out what you do well, and do more of it.

The key thing here is what the government will do to ensure the workforce is ready for these changes. There should be accessible programs for training, re-education, and other vocational support. If these types of programs are lacking in the U.S., that should be a pressing concern for just about everyone at this point.

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This is what I'm getting at. Services need to be an export industry too.
I saw that bit about foreign students and I wondered, "Will it be at the expense of Canadian Students?"

When I went to McMaster in the late 80's in my faculty - Engineering, it was solidly Chinese students. Not 5%, not 10%, but probably 50% (at least in first year) I remember the trick of the day was for them to have their Landed Immigrant Status and avoid any sort of number restrictions on foreign students and the high cost that goes with.

Thing is - when they graduate, they virtually all leave the Country.

So we paid for their education in part (I was told at the time that we only paid 1/12'th of the cost of our education, the gov't paid the rest.

I don't think the Universities are currently set up to take so many foreign students. All that will happen is that they will take the place of the Canadian students, then leave when they graduate. The suspicious person in me figures this is simply a way for a broke province to get their higher education budget paid for.

As to the Auto Industry, I've thought about that and my line of thinking is that Ontario should be helping the Japanese manufacturers to locate here more so than the North American ones. Chrysler is dying no matter what anyone says. GM, well, the jury is outon them still. I know for a fact that Toyota would rather build cars in Canada than the US because our workforce is better educated (in the US, they have to have pictorials for their assembly line workers to put the cars together), and our health care system eliminates that huge cost burden.

People are still going to buy cars going forward, the only question is where are they going to be made.

At the end of the day, if North American consumers were more in tune with supporting local industry (as they do in Japan actually) we'd be better off.

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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
assuming that those who already have those jobs (asst. managers, managers, supervisors, regional managers, etc.) aren't clinging to their jobs in a bad economy. there aren't an infinite amount of "promotable" jobs in Wal-Mart or anywhere else. Hard work, desire, etc. aren't enough alone. Opportunity is a huge part of the equation
Store Managers at Walmart actually make a pretty good buck.
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