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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan
Well, the Appalachians are -still- dealing with that which Hobbits and Men would call a "Fell Winter." We have spent more time below zero-F, more time below freezing (32F/0C), more days being snowed on, more days without power, and more days with snow on the ground than at any time in living memory. We have had more snow, sleet, and freezing rain this winter since before anyone cal remember, 70+ inches in some areas...and I live in North Carolina! -Literally- nobody can remember a winter like this, and that's -counting- the Blizzard Of 68 (over a 1.5 meters/4ft of snow in less than 36hrs), and records suggest that this may be the hardest winter in more than a century. Every species of game animal I can observe is starving down to their bones (squirrel, rabbit, turkeys, deer, etc), and my poor cows are going through 2.5x their usual ration just to maintain body weight. This on -top- of the fact that, as it turns out, no statistically significant warming has occurred in the last decade or more.
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Isn't there an El Nino effect right now? Toronto's snowfall has plummeted this winter. Maybe there's an El Nino or something....
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It reminds me of those "End Of The World" prophets who scream and shout and bluster that the End Is Nigh...and when The End doesn't happen, attribute this fact to the prayers of their four followers.
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This is
far more exaggerated than anything I've read about global warming. What does that say about you?
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Originally Posted by filtherton
One season's worth of weather doesn't say anything about global climate change.
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This is true. But I don't know of anyone who looks at one season in isolation for any significant long-term purpose.
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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan
However, when someone says "This Event (X) is GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF FACTOR-1!"
And then Event X -doesn't- happen...
And that someone (or those someones) then say "This Event (Z) HAPPENED BECAUSE OF FACTOR-1!"...
...and Event X and Event Z are polar opposites...
...it does say a lot about the person/people making the predictions. It -says- that they are capable neither of admitting error nor explaining it, and it suggests rather strongly that they are snake-oil-selling charlatans.
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But are they polar opposites? (Was that a pun?) Do they have the opposite conditions, causes, effects, outcomes, and implications? Is anyone arguing this? Is it really that simple? Before we write off science as snake oil, I'd like to know what exactly you're talking about.