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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
total strawman. murder and fraud can't even come close to the comparison of making smoking in the establishment illegal.
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Okay, so you admit that there are some things that private property owners shouldn't be able to do even if they're on their own property. So stop resorting to simplistic platitudes that you don't even believe in to make your point. Either the government can tell private property owners what to do on their own property or they can't. Which is it?
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using this argument, public health and safety, you'd better be hiring 5 million more cops and outlawing every single thing that's dangerous, including toothpicks.
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That's has nothing to do with anything I've said. All I'm saying is that it's foolish to embrace the notion that private property owners should be able to do whatever the hell they want, just because they're on their own property. I'm not arguing the absolutist position, you are.
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i'm actually getting real sick and tired of advocating every regulation for public health and safety. It's just another progressive method of controlling the populace. It's absolute insanity to push for this kind of totalitarianism.
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It's not insanity and it's not totalitarianism. A lot of it is actually pretty well supported by scientific data. Which is often more convincing than vague platitudes lamenting rights you don't really even believe actually exist.