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Old 02-10-2010, 03:33 PM   #58 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Why no mention of North Korea?
I think Iran is a bigger threat to world stability. Conflict in the ME can easily lead to a world war in my opinion. I think North Korea can be isolated much easier. I also believe that if we can follow through with Bush's plan regarding the ME we can see generations of world peace. The key is in representative governments. I fear if we take our eye of off that goal we are all at risk. If the rest of the world is unified with Iran, North Korea will get the message.

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Originally Posted by rahl View Post
So if you are "mightier" than me, it's ok for you to come to my house and tell me I can't have my guns?
Like I wrote, I knew I would be misunderstood. But, in direct answer to your question, yes. That is how it works. If I can garner the support of superior force ( the law, police, military, mobs, etc), I can force you to my will. The opposite is true as well.

The thing is though, I respect freedom as do most Americans. If you let me live in peace and freedom, I have no issue with you - most Americans are the same way. In addition at some point I will perceive your actions to restrict the freedom of others as a threat to my freedom. If my neighbor is not free, nor am I. So, I would use force to protect freedom, even if it is not mine. Wouldn't you?


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And when no evidence is found that they have Nukes, you simply assume the evidence is wrong?
I don't trust them, so yes - I would assume the evidence is wrong.

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You simply have a "hunch" they really do?
Yes.

Are you suggesting you have no doubts? On a scal of 1 to 10 with 10 being absoluttly no trust, I give the people running Iran a 10. Do you give them a 1? Or, are you at 5+, meaning you are closer to my view than you probably realized.
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Ace...you wouldn't happen to be a certain ex-president when not in cyber world would you?
I know what I am, and I have tried explaining it in the past. I am the guy who has to be talked down, I am the guy who takes action first and asks questions later. Fortunately I know who I am, when I get those urges, I let cooler heads take the lead. If I were President, and asked for the authority to use force, assume I would use it, don't give it to me until you are ready. My promise has always been to be honest, so just as Bush said what he was going to do, I would as well. The problem is when a person like me is dealing with people who don't really communicate directly saying what they mean. If the guy in Iran says he wants me wiped off the face of the earth, I assume he means it, and I act accordingly. I don't assume he was joking, negotiating, using hyperbole or whatever.
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