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Originally Posted by Derwood
no, THIS is false
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do you know what the gun laws are in NYC or chicago? Do you know the steps it takes to acquire one in those two cities?
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Originally Posted by dippin
Again, as i said: "I am not aware of any significant position within the gun control movement that favors the complete elimination of gun ownership."
If that is "intellectual dishonesty," prove it. Show me one significant group that openly advocates for the complete elimination of gun ownership. If that is based on nothing more on what you think they would do in the future depending on how things go blahblahblah, then it would be obvious who is being intellectually dishonest here.
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The Brady Campaign started out named Handgun Control, Inc. Their purpose was to ban civilian ownership of handguns. Their 'public position' has changed because of the publics position, but to think that their position is no longer about banning handgun possession, or gun possession in general is pure intellectual dishonesty. That position is evidenced by their stated briefs in heller v. DC and the upcoming Mcdonald v. Chicago case.
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