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Old 02-05-2010, 06:35 PM   #35 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
Saying there is no protection for workers is bullshit. Sorry, Pan, it is. There are laws in every state to prevent what you're talking about. You can't force people to work OT, etc.

Now if the workers are unwilling to report violations, that's on them
First, you have to find not just you but others willing to report it. That takes bravery and the belief you are 100% right and your job will be protected.

Secondly, you have to file with (in Ohio it's the EEOC) AND hope their workload let's them get to you before you are fired. And if you are fired, good luck finding a job while you await their investigation and then hearings.

Ohio being a "Right to work" state, employers can fire you for any reason whatsoever and if you were considered "part-time" (which most are), good luck getting unemployment.

Then IF the EEOC hears it, the company has the money to have lawyers while you sit there hoping the others don't back down.

I have seen it first hand and know of a few friends that tried, lost their jobs and nothing could be done.

Then if you are like me, where a client, who has a history of being extremely aggressive and has a street rep as being a very angry man who likes to hurt people, threatens you, touches you and you call the cops to have paperwork in case something does happen (which IS legal, once a client/patient threatens and/or touches you confidentiality goes out the window and that person can be held accountable for their actions). And upon calling the police you lose your job because the boss says "Mr. CEO has a good repoire with the police and bullshit calls like this embarrass him and this company, you're fired."

I called around, there were lawyers willing to hear the case but there was as one attorney said, "no money in the case and it comes down to he/said she said and it is very hard to convince a jury that you were within your rights."

So, no... in the state of Ohio there is very little protection and with budgets being cut it is getting worse. To say there is worker protection is bullshit and the employers know it.

---------- Post added at 09:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
Not sure that's legal, even if you're compensating them for it.
No, mandatory overtime IS legal. In fact there is no law that limits the number of hours an employer can make you work.

Mandatory Overtime | Forced Overtime

---------- Post added at 09:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:33 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by james t kirk View Post
True.

It's a race to the bottom.

We have closed all the factories down and moved all those decent paying jobs to China in the name of cheap shit.

My parents bought a Maytag Washing Machine in 1977 for about $5 or 600 bucks. It was made in North America and it lasted 30 years.

I could walk into Home Depot tonight and buy a similar Maytag TONIGHT and it would cost about $600 bucks. It will be made in Indonesia though and it might last 5 years if I am lucky. People would have a fucking heart attack if they had to pay $1,500.00 for a fucking Washing Machine now (cause that would be what $600 from 1977 brought forward would cost).

All those poor bastards working at Maytag in Ohio have been laid off. Gone are the $20.00 an hour jobs. Replaced by minimum wage working at the Walmart.

Nobody wants to pay the freight anymore.
It's not no one wants to pay the freight anymore....it's no one can AFFORD to pay anymore.
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