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Originally Posted by roachboy
there's a differend about the central arguments that the anti-choice people will not and cannot acknowledge and there's a considerable degree of obtuseness on their part as well, as demonstrated by your post.
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You're going to elaborate on what that 'obtuseness' is, right? You're not just making it up, right?
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of course they're free to argue their positions, but not to impose their arguments on others. it's just like that. you know, a differend.
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There's this thing called 'government' that people, right or wrong, routinely use to impose their arguments on others. And the anti-choice side once was indeed free to impose its arguments on others using this thing. So what's you're point - that they probably can't? Or that they shouldn't?
If the latter, well, it's harder to consider such advice from someone whose words would indicate that they don't understand - or care to understand - the very first thing about the anti-choice mindset.
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o and your analogy's false.
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O no it isn't. As long as you're pretending that the 'murder' premise doesn't exist, you're going to be talking to yourself or the choir. Which is fine, I suppose, if not a little boring and self-indulgent. But no pro-lifer's going to give a damn what you say when you throw out something as silly - given their premises - as "you guys should just abstain from murder if you hate it so much!"
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Originally Posted by Iliftrocks
That is a beautiful statement. Sums it all up for me.
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For the record, yeah, this is one of those really dumb pro-life arguments.
Given that we haven't yet achieved crystal ball technology, either side using this argument is dumb.