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SirSeymour · 01-26-2010, 01:27 PM

You have to differentiate between the candidate and the office holder. Bottom line, Obama the candidate did not have all the facts and I don't care what you think you would do differently from your predecessor, you can't be sure until you have 100% of the facts involved in making the decision.

I fully expected to see much of what we have today in the foreign policy department, especially as it pertains to Iraq and Afghanistan. The facts being reported by the experts on the ground don't change because a Democrat moved into 1600 Penn Ave. No one, not Bush, not Obama, not the Joint Chiefs, not Congress and not the commanders in theater want to see a single American life taken needlessly or frivolously. If Obama is following many of the same policies as Bush and people view him as having broken with campaign promises then maybe they should consider that he now knows something he did not know then and that they still don't. Just a thought.

As for the domestic economy...well, we did not get into this mess overnight and no one can get us out of it overnight either.

I will say the healthcare thing is a mess and I hold not only Obama responsible but also Pelosi and Reid. They mistook the outcome of the elections 14 months ago as some sort of sweeping mandate to usher in a new populist era. It really wasn't that at all, I don't think. Rather it was a vote to change business as usual in Washington and that just simply has not happened. This was reflected in the opinion polls when you separated Obama from his policies. Obama had a personally high rating but the work on healthcare did not. Someone (Obama, Reid or Pelosi) should have noticed that sooner.

*shrug*

Can't give him a grade yet but if forced to it would be an "I" for Incomplete. Were Obama as smart as he is touted to be, he would have said the same when asked the question by Oprah.

01-26-2010, 01:27 PM	#96 (permalink)
SirSeymour Ambling Toward the Light Location: The Early 16th Century	You have to differentiate between the candidate and the office holder. Bottom line, Obama the candidate did not have all the facts and I don't care what you think you would do differently from your predecessor, you can't be sure until you have 100% of the facts involved in making the decision. I fully expected to see much of what we have today in the foreign policy department, especially as it pertains to Iraq and Afghanistan. The facts being reported by the experts on the ground don't change because a Democrat moved into 1600 Penn Ave. No one, not Bush, not Obama, not the Joint Chiefs, not Congress and not the commanders in theater want to see a single American life taken needlessly or frivolously. If Obama is following many of the same policies as Bush and people view him as having broken with campaign promises then maybe they should consider that he now knows something he did not know then and that they still don't. Just a thought. As for the domestic economy...well, we did not get into this mess overnight and no one can get us out of it overnight either. I will say the healthcare thing is a mess and I hold not only Obama responsible but also Pelosi and Reid. They mistook the outcome of the elections 14 months ago as some sort of sweeping mandate to usher in a new populist era. It really wasn't that at all, I don't think. Rather it was a vote to change business as usual in Washington and that just simply has not happened. This was reflected in the opinion polls when you separated Obama from his policies. Obama had a personally high rating but the work on healthcare did not. Someone (Obama, Reid or Pelosi) should have noticed that sooner. shrug Can't give him a grade yet but if forced to it would be an "I" for Incomplete. Were Obama as smart as he is touted to be, he would have said the same when asked the question by Oprah. __________________ SQL query SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0 Zero rows returned.... Last edited by SirSeymour; 01-26-2010 at 01:29 PM..