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Tilted Cat Head
Administrator
Location: Manhattan, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ratbastid
No, look, here's my point. Of your specific examples, only closing Gitmo is a broken promise. He promised to expand the engagement in Afghanistan while drawing down troops in Iraq, and he's done exactly that. "National security" is so broad an area, it's almost impossible to talk about in terms of specific promises made and kept/broken, but as someone who actually paid attention to what Obama said as a candidate, the action and inaction I'm seeing from them is entirely expected action and inaction, regrettable though I find it.
Obama detractors like very much to put common liberal agendas into his mouth and then claim he's failed as a savior. Reality diverges from this view significantly. Feel free to keep regurgitating nonsense, but I'm going to try my damnedest to keep bringing FACTS to the table. Hopefully at least I'll get you to a place where you're unable to say these things with a straight face.
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I haven't ever claimed for him to be a savior, just politics as usual because that's how things work in Washington or any other group of people that become a machine.
My view of his supporters were via media and people's facebook and twitter updates. Other than that, it's based on the actions or inactions he's taken.
regarding the other accomplishments, because I didn't see them as promises, the SCHIP, CARD, etc. are expected. A president doesn't just work on 1-5 items on their list.
I still don't agree with the reform for credit since it hasn't helped in my opinion, just gave the bankers a deadline and the grace period to fuck with people to make that deadline ineffective.
I never thought he'd repeal the Patriot Act, I did think that he wasn't going to extend the same provisions that Bush II was decried about with such vitriol, but Obama continuing them, seems to have been given a pass.
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