Quote:
Originally Posted by dippin
You do understand that an amendment to a STATE's constitution still has to comply with the FEDERAL constitution, right? And that prop 8 is being challenged in federal court because of that, right?
You seem unable to grasp this. Whether or not the courts will agree with the challenge is another issue, but you seem unable to understand that state laws must be in accordance to the limits set by the federal constitution. As such, the people bringing forth this challenge are entirely within their rights to challenge a state's amendment.
|
No, I have every bit of understanding of US and state constitutional law in this aspect.
The question put forth is why do YOU believe it to be unconstitutional? I don't want links or quotes or plagarism... I want YOUR opinion on the argument.
I truly don't know if it is or not. But until the courts rule the people voted for it. And I, PERSONALLY, believe that instead of all this fighting people are doing for it to be ruled "unconstitutional" would be better served educating and working on changing voters opinions so that if ruled "constitutional" you may have a chance with voters repealing it.
There are enough lawyers fighting it. Your voice isn't going to change anything in court. Calling voters ignorant and attacking them for voting for it, will not change their minds IF you have to put a repeal on the ballot. If anything, that will result in the complete opposite of what you want.
This is what I have been saying all along.... if that sounds so bad to you.... then I don't know what to tell you. It's going to take hard work and true belief to change voters opinions, especially if you talk down to them.
---------- Post added at 09:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratbastid
Voters ARE ignorant. Panicky, easily swayed by the loudest and glossiest-produced voice, prone to misinterpretation and irrational emotional reaction. Just look at what happened with Prop 8. Can you honestly tell me you believe that the outcome of that vote reflects the majority view of the State of California?
Your precious founders knew this, which is why we're a representative democracy.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." --Men In Black
|
To this, I say attitudes like that will not win you the votes you need.
And if you believe that then Obama's election was not of thebest man.
OR are these "ignorant" voters only ignorant when you disagree with them?