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Originally Posted by pan6467
It's attitudes like these that keep electing leaders that put us trillions of dollars in debt and lead us into facism.
THE PEOPLE ARE WRONG< FUCK WHAT THE <MASSES WANT, they are stupid, ignorant and don't know what truly is going on.... we need government to lead us to the promised land and we need government to dictate to us all we need to know.
That said, unless Prop 8 violates the US Constitution or California's and cannot be amended to work out those violations..... LET THE PEOPLE'S VOICE BE HEARD!!!!!!
I may not agree or like it but as with the smoking bans, the people have spoken. You want to change it, do it by ballot and have your initiative/prop/amendment put on a ballot and voted on.
IT's like people crying that Ohio passed gambling and now want to legislate and challenge and reverse the vote without giving the people the chance to vote.
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Look, not to reducto ad absurdam you or anything, but... Let's say you annoyed enough people in your city that they took a vote and decided to kill you. Would that make your murder legal? Obviously not.
I like how you snuck in that "unless the prop is unconstitutional" disclaimer in there. That's precisely what this law suit claims. Guess what: that's not for you or me to decide. Neither of us are Supreme Court Justices. So. Either contribute something worthwhile to the conversation, or stop talking shit.
Anyone who's still stomping around about the Will of the People just simply doesn't understand the legislative structure of our country. It's that simple. It's not up to the legislature to ensure the laws they pass are constitutional--including laws they delegate to popular vote for decisions on. Those laws, once signed, become law, and then if their constitutionality is questionable, a case testing the law comes before the Supreme Court, where its constitutionality is decided. That's what's happening here. There's no will of the people being contravened here. (Especially considering the travesty that the Prop 8 campaign was--it's pretty clear that the outcome is NOT the will of the majority of Californians, so...)