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Old 01-13-2010, 11:14 AM   #24 (permalink)
Cimarron29414
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Cimarron, that's a good suggestion, but it's my understanding that many homosexuals aren't merely after the state recognition of their union. Many of them also want to be wed in the presence of God.

It can be argued that the Bible teaches against the practice of divorce. Oddly enough, divorce isn't outlawed in most regions of North America.
For Christians, the notion of marriage was created when God joined Adam and Eve. Therefore, for Christians, atheists could not enter into a covenant with God and therefore could not be "married". Since, homosexuals would be creating a union against God's will, they could not be "married" either. Our Bible is unambiguous about homosexuality. I say this without malice, I am simply explaining our belief system. I will expect all my good liberal friends here to scream at the top of their keyboards regarding this statement of Christian fact. I won't be moved and it's not really the point, now is it.

Since I do separate my faith from my State, I recognize that all those who pay taxes (used figuratively) are entitled to the same protections which my taxes pay for and which I enjoy. In short, if I get a say-so as to who gets my stuff and who gets to pull my plug, so should Adam and Adam. Whether I find the act sinful or not has little to do with the fact that there's a huge number of taxpayers who are paying for rights that they don't receive - and that is patently unfair.

Incidentally, I have 5 different gay couples in my life - relatives, neighbors, friends, and coworkers. I have spoken in great depth with each couple about my opinion on all of this. All couples completely understand my position and are extremely thankful that I openly fight with them for their right to unionize. (I consider myself unionized in the eyes of the State, BTW.)

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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
I agree and would take it a step further; take away the church's ability to legally sign marriage licenses. Make the religious aspect of marriage 100% ceremonial
The pastors simply serve as a notary to the contract. I have no problem with them signing the "Civil Union" license. My covenant with God is the unbreakable contract, not the piece of paper I signed.

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Originally Posted by Rekna View Post
If a church wanted to marry a gay couple what is stopping them? It seems to me that anyone wanting to stop a church from doing so would be interfering with the freedom of religion.
I agree. If your faith allows for this union, knock yourself out. Mine does not.
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