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Old 01-10-2010, 08:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by dippin View Post
So a surge, that necessarily involves more people working for the government, and therefore higher expenditures, is not a bigger government? Regardless, the point still stands that the current level of revenue is not enough to pay for medicare, social security, and military spending at current levels. So anyone promising lower taxes without saying which of the three they will cut is simply not serious.
See I seriously disagree with this. MANY politicians on both sides of the aisle fail to recognize or if they do, mention the fact that it is the TAX BASE hurting not the TAX RATE.

If you, are able to find ways to bring back good paying jobs (say rebuild the infrastructure, bring back manufacturing jobs, make education affordable to all and bring in tech jobs, etc), this builds up the TAX BASE and allows for the TAX RATE to decrease. This is the only way to sustain a government that provides needed social programs.

What we have now is a TAX BASE being depleted thus the TAX RATE must increase and thus the government either goes seriously in debt trying to maintain social programs and eventually goes either broke or has to totally cut the social programs.

In order to rebuild the TAX BASE you have to spend wisely and make some cuts but put that money into better more efficient programs (education, construction on the outdated electrical grids, roads, bridges, the major cities).

You can do this by raising our very low tariffs on imports and thus even the playing field for domestic products, which brings back jobs, which rebuilds the TAX BASE and not touch the TAX RATES, until that base is solid again at which time you'd be able to lower the rates.

The biggest thing needed is not cutting programs but making them more streamlined and effective. Stop allowing abuses, get rid of pork and cut overseas aid.

It's not too late to get to there, but I don't see the Dems currently in power even attempting to do it and the GOP doesn't show that they have a feasible plan to accomplish this, they rely more on selling a lower tax but no plan to rebuild a base.
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